[lug] Gnome hidden panel

Mon Jan 1 23:32:21 MST 2001

I did as suggested found /tmp/orbit-lewis and rm *
There were no /tmp/.gnome or /tmp/.X11 so I looked around and found .gnome
in lewis/.gnome  the is a file there
named metadata.db has a 700 permission, that is
-rwx------ for the uninitiated,  could that be where the problem is?  BTW,
after rm * /tmp/orbit-lewis then rebooted and it still says  .Xclients
cannot be found so it looks for
 .Xclients-default and that is not there either.

David dbl at db-enterprises.com
happy new year to all
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel


> You will find in /tmp/ there are some directories named after
> orbit-username. If username is lewis, /tmp/orbit-lewis/. Try deleting
> all /tmp/orbit-* directories. Same for all /tmp/.gnome*, /tmp/.ICE*,
> /tmp/.X11*. Not something you'd want to do while X is running, but this
> won't be a problem here :)
>
>
> David Lewis wrote:
> >
> >     Lost my focus. I was originally writing about my panel being hidden
in
> > gnome. Then gnome went away and it wouldn't start when I did startx. I
think
> > the problem is still there, I still can't get to gnome. When .Xclient
runs,
> > it says the windows is already active and it doesn't start gnome. I
still
> > need to get into gnome and get the panel back so I can finish adding my
> > printer, adding netscape, setting up a swap partition, and more using
Linux.
> > Thanks for the help, but we have to get back to the original problem.
> >
> > David dbl at db-enterprises.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
> > To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel
> >
> > > David Lewis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
> > > > To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 10:18 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel
> > > >
> > > > > David Lewis wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
> > > > > > To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:56 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > David Lewis wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am a newbie to your user group. I had a question and got
hold
> > of
> > > > > > > > your group through the Computer Edge. I installed rehat 7.0
and
> > win
> > > > > > > > me  on my 586 pc. Whole working in linux I hid the panel in
> > Gnome
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > don't know how to make it visible again. Can anyone help
me??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > David B Lewis
> > > > > > > > dbl at db-enterprises.com
> > > > > > > > http://www.db-enterprises.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think the same panel you are talking about can be reached
with a
> > > > right
> > > > > > > click on the desktop, and choose "Configure Background Image".
If
> > this
> > > > > > > isn't the one, post here again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > D. Stimits, stimits at idcomm.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried startx it use to bring up Gnome with no panel. this time
> > the
> > > > msgs
> > > > > > were
> > > > > >   .Xclients: exec:
> > > > > > no such file or directory
> > > > > > waiting for Xserver to shutdown
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not sure why startx did not start Gnome this time. I have
been
> > > > doing
> > > > > > redhat linux 7 getting started guide
> > > > > > Chapters 16 and 17.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David <dbl at db-enterprises.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There should be a file for RH 7 "Xclients" at
/etc/X11/xinit/Xclients;
> > > > > if it finds that, it should be enough. Generally the .Xclients
would
> > be
> > > > > a per-user file placed in the home directory, and overriding the
> > > > > system-wide Xclients. Though I notice there are also versions
roughly
> > > > > per window manager in /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/, e.g.,
> > Xclients.gnome.
> > > > > Do you have the Xclients.gnome (and maybe Xclients.toplevel)
there?
> > > > > Also, it would find one missing if it didn't have permission to
read
> > it.
> > > > > If you are running startx other than root, use that non-root user
and
> > cd
> > > > > to /etc/X11/xinit/, see if you can "cat Xclients"; same for
> > > > > /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.gnome and Xclients.toplevel.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, there are a lot of configuration programs that simply
overwrite
> > > > > config files. Especially upon installation of new software. The
> > > > > /etc/X11/XF86Config file is notorious for getting its font path
and
> > some
> > > > > other parameters replaced while changing something entirely
different.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >  I checked all the files mentioned. I found all files except
> > > > .Xclients-default that is why startx isn't working. Can I put it
back?
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > > My system (RH 6.2) doesn't have the .Xclients-default. It does have
> > > /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients, which I believe is run at startup of X11, and
> > > is something like a system-wide default. In the case of virtually
every
> > > settings file related to X11, there is a copy that runs for startup,
and
> > > possibly a copy for default use after up, that users would refer to,
> > > unless they have their own copy in home. "Typical" is for it to check
> > > the most personal/local to home version first, then work its way out
> > > towards the more general version if the personal version is not found.
> > > Thus it seldom hurts to place copies of such an init file in various
> > > directories that might be searched, possibly with different
> > > modifications. A sym link is often a good way to go if you want these
to
> > > all be the same and you want to edit just one. An exception to all
this
> > > is that sometimes there are "security" related files of which the
values
> > > cannot be overridden by individual versions. In the case of X init
> > > files, I don't know which would be exceptions or not; in any case, you
> > > could always place a copy there and test it out without fear. Be sure
> > > that the files have permission to be read by whatever users, and can't
> > > be written by non-root if they are not owned by the particular user.
> > > During testing you might want to just make all init files readable by
> > > all (of the Xclients files), but don't forget where they were set
before
> > > you started.
> > >
> > > You might also want to get the source to your X install, unpack it
> > > somewhere temporary, and see what its Xclients files look like. Better
> > > have some hard drive room though.
> > >
>
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