Thanks for the feedback on Debian KDE. I'm aware that other distros have KDE, but for a variety of reasons I'll not bore you with I'm not going to try another distro just for its KDE. The site http://kde.debian.net/ purports to have a "stable" .deb of KDE 2.1.1. I should give it a try and report back. Glenn Murray www.mines.edu/~glenn/public_html/Welcome.html