[lug] Knowledge shopping list

Greg Horne jeerygh at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 22 12:26:21 MDT 2001 

I took a look at the source and I understand what you mean when you say they 
are evil!  Though, it's amazing to me that I've never had any problems with 
the Realtek NICs.  Furthermore, I suspect that the reason I had no problems 
was due in part to the hard work of the driver writers.  Yay them!

Greg Horne

>From: Nate Duehr <nate at natetech.com>
>Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
>To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
>Subject: Re: [lug] Knowledge shopping list
>Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:29:58 -0600
>
>RealTek's are evil.  See some of the comments in the kernel driver
>source for how much they are hated and feared by the driver writers.
>
>You'll NEVER get 100Mb/s throughput from the RealTek 100Mb/s cards.
>Their DMA stuff is broken, and their other ways of accessing the card
>only allow the kernel to send the card four packets at a time.
>
>Uggh.
>
>The source comments do a better job of complaining about RealTek than I
>do, however... :-)
>
>On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 07:04:09PM +0000, Greg Horne wrote:
> > <rant>
> > On a side note:
> > I hate FA311's with a passion :)
> >
> > Experience #1
> > Uninstall old 10Mb NIC install FA311TX
> > Installs just fine...tells me to restart...explorer.exe horribly crashes
> > every reboot.  WSPWSP.dll is a cause of the problem.  I guess the new 
>NIC
> > messed up MSPROXY client and made windows unhappy.  FA311=evil
> >
> > Experience #2
> > Unistall old 10Mb NIC (clients computer) install FA311TX
> > Installs just fine...tells me to restart...NTLDR not found upon boot.  I
> > reinstalled windows (not fresh) and everything works just fine.  
>FA311=evil
> >
> > I know lots of other people have had good experiences (like my 
>co-worker),
> > but not me.  I'll stick to my trusty RealTek8139 or FA310TX.
> >
> > Greg
> > </rant>
> >
> >
> > >From: Chris Wade <cwade at veripost.net>
> > >Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> > >To: "'lug at lug.boulder.co.us'" <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > >Subject: RE: [lug] Knowledge shopping list
> > >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:18:45 -0600
> > >
> > >Thanks for the info, FA311 it is.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Greg Horne [mailto:jeerygh at hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 6:21 PM
> > > > To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> > > > Subject: Re: [lug] Knowledge shopping list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If your NIC is an FA311TX, then that's your problem.  It seems that
> > > > FA310TX's are supported and I think 312 but not 311's.  I
> > > > believe there is a
> > > > patch on www.netgear.com
> > > >
> > > > Greg Horne
> > > >
> > > > >From: Chris Wade <cwade at veripost.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> > > > >To: "'lug at lug.boulder.co.us'" <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > > > >Subject: [lug] Knowledge shopping list
> > > > >Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:59:13 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks all for all the help and information on telnetd
> > > > security.  I am
> > > > >inspired to put together a 'knowledge shopping list' with
> > > > all the things I
> > > > >am going to need to know to get my setup working the way I
> > > > want it.. any
> > > > >pointers to technical docs, previous threads etc. would be greatly
> > > > >appreciated... :)
> > > > >
> > > > >Here's what I have (hope my ascii graphics come across well):
> > > > >
> > > > >Internet
> > > > >  |
> > > > >  V
> > > > >At&t at home cable modem
> > > > >(supports NAT)
> > > > >  |
> > > > >  V
> > > > >Hub --> Suse 7.1 Pro w/ everything installed
> > > > >  |----> Win2000 Laptop, used for VPN to work
> > > > >  |----> WinME laptop (ugh)
> > > > >
> > > > >This setup is okay, we all get out to the internet with it,
> > > > but I want to
> > > > >do
> > > > >a lot more.  Here's what I think I would like:
> > > > >
> > > > >Internet
> > > > >  |
> > > > >  V
> > > > >Something better than cable modem for running a server
> > > > >  |
> > > > >  V
> > > > >Suse 7.1 acting as firewall, web server, mailrouter,
> > > > gateway, development
> > > > >environment
> > > > >  |
> > > > >  V
> > > > >Hub
> > > > >  |
> > > > >  V
> > > > >Home network consisting of The abovementioned Windows
> > > > laptops plus an old
> > > > >PowerMac
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I've read messages here where people refer to setups like
> > > > this that they
> > > > >have running... is this pretty standard?  I know that, at a
> > > > minimum, I want
> > > > >to be running Apache w/PHP 4.0.6 with mysql and
> > > > postgresql... haven't used
> > > > >postgres at all but would like to learn it... I'm okay with
> > > > setting up the
> > > > >Apache/PHP stuff.  I've done that so many times at work it
> > > > makes me dizzy.
> > > > >But I also need to figure out how to get my second network
> > > > card running
> > > > >(Netgear, box says linux supported but it didn't detect),
> > > > and then set it
> > > > >up
> > > > >so that I can still access the internet from all four
> > > > machines as well as
> > > > >get mail routed to the three behind the firewall.  I have a
> > > > domain pointed
> > > > >to this box... I use mail forwarding as a registrar service,
> > > > where all mail
> > > > >to my domain gets forwarded to a single address, but I would
> > > > like to have a
> > > > >lot more control over it (i.e. separate addresses to
> > > > separate mailboxes).
> > > > >Will still need to do VPN through the linux firewall to
> > > > work, and oh yes, I
> > > > >will want to set up Samba (which I've done) and Netatalk
> > > > (which I haven't
> > > > >done).
> > > > >
> > > > >At&t requests that you don't run a server w/ one of their
> > > > cable modems, and
> > > > >I can understand why... bandwidth shrinks dramatically in
> > > > the outgoing
> > > > >direction and tends to clog things up for everybody else.  Is there
> > > > >anything
> > > > >else of comparable cost that would be more amenable to this
> > > > kind of usage?
> > > > >If not, what am I looking at paying (roughly) if I want to
> > > > up my outgoing
> > > > >bandwidth by using some other service?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks in advance for help with all or just parts of this...
> > > > >
> > > > >Chris
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