[lug] Weird DNS problems

Hugh Brown hugh at vecna.com
Fri Nov 9 11:32:11 MST 2001 

Curious.  I'm just reporting what I get back when I do a whois pupman.com
at the command line on a rh71 box.

Hugh 
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# whois =pupman.com
[whois.crsnic.net]

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Server Name: PUPMAN.COM
   IP Address: 199.45.150.249
   Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
   Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org



   Domain Name: PUPMAN.COM
   Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
   Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org
   Name Server: YORK.JYMIS.COM
   Name Server: DICK.JYMIS.COM
   Updated Date: 05-nov-2001


>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 05:09:17 EST <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.


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# whois pupman.com at whois.opensrs.net
[whois.opensrs.net]
Registrant:
 Tesla Coil List
 155 Pierce St.
 Apt. 3
 Erie, CO 80516
 US

 Domain Name: PUPMAN.COM
 
 Sponsoring Reseller; for Technical Support
 with respect to this domain contact:
    tummy.com, ltd., jafo-opensrs at tummy.com
    970-494-0355

 Administrative Contact:
    Atkinson, Chip  chip at PUPMAN.COM
    155 Pierce St.
    Apt. 3
    Erie, CO 80516
    US
    303-828-3649

 Technical Contact:
    Atkinson, Chip  chip at PUPMAN.COM
    155 Pierce St.
    Apt. 3
    Erie, CO 80516
    US
    303-828-3649

 Billing Contact:
    Atkinson, Chip  chip at PUPMAN.COM
    155 Pierce St.
    Apt. 3
    Erie, CO 80516
    US
    303-828-3649


 Record last updated on 09-Nov-2001.
 Record expires on 10-Apr-2002.
 Record Created on 09-Apr-1996.

 Domain servers in listed order:
    DICK.JYMIS.COM   63.173.117.25
    YORK.JYMIS.COM   63.173.117.7



Hugh


"Chip Atkinson"
> 
> That's really weird.  I'm going through tummy.com as my registrar and 
> there is no provision that I can see for changing that IP address. I'll 
> ask Sean and see what he says.
> 
> Hugh Brown wrote:
> 
> > I looked a little further, whois.crsnic.net (default on my box) lists the
> > old ip address, whois.opensrs.net which belongs to your registrar doesn't
> > mention the ip address
> > 
> > 
> > Hugh
> > 
> > "Chip Atkinson"
> > 
> >> Jeez.  I don't know how many times I over looked that.  I'll make the 
> >> changes there.  Thanks for the guidance.  Hopefully that will get things 
> >> fixed up a bit.
> >> 
> >> Chip
> >> 
> >> Hugh Brown wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> whois returns that pupman is registered with the old ip address.  It looks
> >>> you need to go to your registrar and get them to update the record.
> >>> 
> >>> Hugh
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> "Chip Atkinson"
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> I believe that jymis.com has the authoritative domain records.  That 
> >>>> what dig seems to indicate:
> >>>> 
> >>>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> >>>> pupman.com.             16h25m42s IN NS  ns1.jymis.com.
> >>>> pupman.com.             16h25m42s IN NS  ns0.jymis.com.
> >>>> 
> >>>> AAARGHHH!!! Ok, I think this is the problem:
> >>>> 
> >>>>  > server G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
> >>>> Default Server:  G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
> >>>> Address:  192.42.93.30
> >>>> 
> >>>>  > pupman.com
> >>>> Server:  G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
> >>>> Address:  192.42.93.30
> >>>> 
> >>>> Non-authoritative answer:
> >>>> Name:    pupman.com
> >>>> Address:  199.45.150.249
> >>>> 
> >>>> (The 199.45... address is old and out of date)  It should be 63.173.117.115.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ok, how did you resolve the problem?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the advice.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Chip
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hugh Brown wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> A couple of thoughts.  Who is authoritative for your domain?  If it is the
> >>>>> qwest servers, do you know for sure that they updated the tables on the
> >>>>> bogus server?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I have had the problem with DNS if the root name servers have one ip and
> >>>>> the authoritative dns server for the domain have different ip's then things
> >>>>> go a little screwy.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hugh
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "Chip Atkinson"
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm having some domain lookup problems that I can't seem to figure out 
> >>>>>> and was hoping that someone could help me or at least point me in the 
> >>>>>> right direction.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Here's the original problem:
> >>>>>> Mail from a mailing list that I run was producing an error when sent to 
> >>>>>> a subscriber at qwest.net.  It is "stat=Data format error" and "DSN: 
> >>>>>> Data format error".  A little search on the web indicated it might be a 
> >>>>>> DNS problem. (Yes, it is DSN in the error).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I go to the name servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf and try to do a 
> >>>>>> forward and reverse lookup of my domain, pupman.com.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
> >>>>>> search pupman.com
> >>>>>> nameserver 206.196.128.1
> >>>>>> nameserver 204.147.80.5
> >>>>>> (both are Qwest's name server as I send the mail out through a DSL 
> >>>>>> connection via them.)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Forward lookups of pupman.com work on the 206 server works, but the 204 
> >>>>>> server has an old IP from around August.  Reverse lookups don't seem to 
> >>>>>> work at all.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Does anyone know what's going on?  I thought that name servers got the 
> >>>>>> information from the name server listed in the whois record.  This 
> >>>>>> doesn't seem to be the case to me becaue it's been since Aug. when I 
> >>>>>> used the old IP and one would think that the cache at Qwest's name 
> >>>>>> servers would have expired.  Furthermore, if I set q=any and query the 
> >>>>>> server giving the bogus results it seems to use the right name server 
> >>>>>> from the whois records.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'm stumped right now.
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Chip
> >>>>> 
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hugh at vecna.com
Vecna Technologies, Inc
6525 Belcrest Rd, Suite 612
Hyattsville MD, 20782
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