[lug] Re: LUG digest, Vol 1 #1691 - 12 msgs

Yuko Jonah yuko_j at yahoo.com
Wed May 8 12:17:37 MDT 2002


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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Change of talk (George Sexton)
2. Re: rsync was Re: [lug] ssh compression (Mark Horning)
3. Re: Change of talk (Sean Reifschneider)
4. Re: Change of talk (Chris Riddoch)
5. Re: Change of talk (Peter Hutnick)
6. RE: Change of talk (Riggs, Rob)
7. RE: Change of talk (Sexton, George)
8. Workstation or CUSTOME (Yuko Jonah)
9. RE: Workstation or CUSTOME (Riggs, Rob)
10. Re: Workstation or CUSTOME (John Hernandez)
11. FRPythoneers May Meeting **Location Change** (Evelyn Mitchell)
12. Re: Workstation or CUSTOME (John Hernandez)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 17:50:02 -0600
From: George Sexton 
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us, Chris Riddoch 
Subject: Re: [lug] Change of talk
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

Chris,

I would be happy to do a demonstration. We just released a web-calendaring 
package called "Connect Daily". The software is proprietary, but it's pretty 
cool, and runs on Linux. The calendaring software is designed for web-
publishing of calendars and schedules. It's well suited for municipalities, 
schools, churches, etc.

The two things that really set this package apart from others is:

1) Outstanding recurring event handling, including exceptions.
2) Resource Management, including Gantt charts, approvals, and conflict 
checking.

We could do a quick demo in 10 minutes or so, or a complete demo in up to 1/2 
hour. About all we need to demo it is an Internet connection. If that's really 
a problem, I could bring a machine with me that has it installed.

If you want to take a look at it, you can visit:

http://www.mhsoftware.com/connectdaily.htm




Quoting Chris Riddoch :

> Hi, everyone.
> 
> Our speakers for Thursday are going to have to reschedule, since it
> seems like most of the interest is in licensing issues - the license
> specialist could give a talk in August, but can't come this Thursday.
> 
> So, because it's so close to the meeting date, I'm proposing that we
> do a bunch of 10-minute demos. If you've been scheduled for a demo in
> the coming months and would like to do it sooner, let me know. If
> you've got a program you'd like to show off, I'd like to hear from
> you! This seems easier than asking someone to throw together a full
> talk in two days...
> 
> Sorry for the last-minuteness of this.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Riddoch | epistemological
> socket at peakpeak.com | humility
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Voice: 303 438 9585
URL: http://www.mhsoftware.com

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 21:41:56 -0600
From: Mark Horning 
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: rsync was Re: [lug] ssh compression
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

Hugh Brown wrote:

>One other question. Before I was using ssh's ability to limit the
>command run on dst-host in the authorized_keys file
>(from="src-host",command="/usr/bin/rsync"). The problem is rsync was
>dying (unexpected EOF or something similar). Anyone know what the right
>command is?
>
>Hugh
>
Hi Hugh,
I had the same problem. I did a ps to find exactly how rsync was being 
executed on
the src side and with my setup it looked as follows:

rsync --server -vlogDtprz --delete . /destination-directory

so I added the following to my authorized_keys2 file on the destination 
server:

from="src_host",no-pty,no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,command="rsync 
--server -vlogDtprz --delete . /destination-directory"


My simple script looks as follows:

#!/bin/bash
#
#

# Back up the defender
LOG=/var/log/bak/log_file

date >>$LOG
/usr/bin/rsync -e ssh -azv --delete \
--exclude "/proc/" \
--exclude "/tmp/" \
--exclude "/var/tmp/" \
--exclude "/var/log/" \
--exclude "/var/run/" \
--exclude "/var/lock/" \
--exclude "/var/spool/squid1/" \
--exclude "/var/spool/squid2/" \
--exclude "/home/" \
/ dest_host:/dest_directory >>$LOG 2>&1
echo -e "$(date)\n" >>$LOG

Since this is on my little home firewall I just backup everything but it 
is so static
that not much needs to transfered at any given time. I also dump the 
home directories
and the mail spool at different intervals into the same destination so I 
can use the same
key and key command on the destination side.

Hope that helps,
Mark

-- 

Mark Horning
rip6 at rip6.net




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 23:15:17 -0600
From: Sean Reifschneider 
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: [lug] Change of talk
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 10:46:51AM -0600, Rob Riggs wrote:
>A few of us would be happy to demo our VOIP-Blasters. Could be pretty
>hands-on for those members that are interested. If any members have a
>laptop with a USB port, bring it along. We'll have extra V-Bs (USB
>interface) and 802.11b PCMCIA cards for folks to play with.

Somone needs to bring a speaker-phone that uses just regular POTS. I
realized today when doing a demo for NCLUG that I didn't have one...

Sean
-- 
Actual error message: "Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue."
Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous 
tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python

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Message: 4
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: [lug] Change of talk
Organization: Rather chaotic
From: Chris Riddoch 
Date: 08 May 2002 10:33:00 -0600
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

George Sexton writes:
> We could do a quick demo in 10 minutes or so, or a complete demo in
> up to 1/2 hour. About all we need to demo it is an Internet
> connection. If that's really a problem, I could bring a machine with
> me that has it installed.

I believe there is an ethernet jack in the front of the room. I'm not
sure if there's a phone plug for the POTS speakerphone for the VoIP
demo, but there's probably one in the building.

In any case, it sounds like we've got several demos ready - I like the
sound of all of them. I'm thinking 15 or 20 minutes each would work
well, some can take less, some could take more. I might be able to
dig up a demo myself... there's a very nice audio program I used in
combination with the Gimp to make the pictures for the presentation I
gave on one of my research projects last week. Layers let you do cool
things.

-- 
Chris Riddoch | epistemological
socket at peakpeak.com | humility

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Message: 5
From: Peter Hutnick 

To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: [lug] Change of talk
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 10:46:18 -0600
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

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On Wednesday 08 May 2002 10:33 am, Chris Riddoch wrote:

> I believe there is an ethernet jack in the front of the room. I'm not
> sure if there's a phone plug for the POTS speakerphone for the VoIP
> demo, but there's probably one in the building.

I don't know anything about C.U.'s phone system, but I wouldn't plug any pone 
I care about into a strange phone jack in a large institution like that . . .

If it is a PBX it will probably let the smoke out of the smoke-driven 
components in the phone.

- -Peter

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Message: 6
From: "Riggs, Rob" 
To: "'lug at lug.boulder.co.us'" 
Subject: RE: [lug] Change of talk
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 10:52:17 -0600 
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

No need for POTS jacks. The VoIP Blasters have RJ-11 jacks on them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Riddoch [mailto:socket at peakpeak.com]

I believe there is an ethernet jack in the front of the room. I'm not
sure if there's a phone plug for the POTS speakerphone for the VoIP
demo, but there's probably one in the building.

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Message: 7
From: "Sexton, George" 
To: 
Subject: RE: [lug] Change of talk
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 10:55:36 -0600
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

One other topic that I wouldn't mind demonstrating at another time would be
Horde/IMP.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-admin at lug.boulder.co.us [mailto:lug-admin at lug.boulder.co.us]On
Behalf Of Chris Riddoch
Sent: 08 May, 2002 10:33 AM
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: [lug] Change of talk


George Sexton writes:
> We could do a quick demo in 10 minutes or so, or a complete demo in
> up to 1/2 hour. About all we need to demo it is an Internet
> connection. If that's really a problem, I could bring a machine with
> me that has it installed.

I believe there is an ethernet jack in the front of the room. I'm not
sure if there's a phone plug for the POTS speakerphone for the VoIP
demo, but there's probably one in the building.

In any case, it sounds like we've got several demos ready - I like the
sound of all of them. I'm thinking 15 or 20 minutes each would work
well, some can take less, some could take more. I might be able to
dig up a demo myself... there's a very nice audio program I used in
combination with the Gimp to make the pictures for the presentation I
gave on one of my research projects last week. Layers let you do cool
things.

--
Chris Riddoch | epistemological
socket at peakpeak.com | humility
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 10:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Yuko Jonah 
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: [lug] Workstation or CUSTOME
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

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What is the difference between workstation and custom setup when installing redhat.

which one is the better option.

thanx,

yj


" Those who perpertrate evil on their fellow men shall
be visited by evil."
---Kenule Saro-wiwa

Yuko Jonah
yuko_j at yahoo.com


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What is the difference between workstation and custom setup when installing redhat.


which one is the better option.


thanx,


yj


" Those who perpertrate evil on their fellow men shall
be visited by evil."
---Kenule Saro-wiwa

Yuko Jonah
yuko_j at yahoo.com 


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Message: 9
From: "Riggs, Rob" 
To: "'lug at lug.boulder.co.us'" 
Subject: RE: [lug] Workstation or CUSTOME
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 11:16:43 -0600 
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

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"Workstation" refers to an pre-defined set of installation packages. It
includes few server applications. Custom allows one to include or exclude
major component groups during the installation process.

Custom should only be chosen by those familiar with configuring the major
server components, since there are security implications when doing
installing these.

-Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Yuko Jonah [mailto:yuko_j at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:12 AM
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: [lug] Workstation or CUSTOME



What is the difference between workstation and custom setup when installing
redhat.

which one is the better option.

thanx,

yj



" Those who perpertrate evil on their fellow men shall
be visited by evil."
---Kenule Saro-wiwa

Yuko Jonah
yuko_j at yahoo.com 




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size=2>"Workstation" refers to an pre-defined set of installation packages. It 
includes few server applications. Custom allows one to include or exclude major 
component groups during the installation process.
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Custom 
should only be chosen by those familiar with configuring the major server 
components, since there are security implications when doing installing 
these.
size=2> 
size=2>-Rob
size=2> 
size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: Yuko Jonah 
[mailto:yuko_j at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:12 
AM
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: [lug] Workstation or 
CUSTOME



What is the difference between workstation and custom setup when installing 
redhat.


which one is the better option.


thanx,


yj


" Those who perpertrate evil on their fellow men shall
be 
visited by evil."
---Kenule Saro-wiwa

Yuko Jonah
yuko_j at yahoo.com




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 11:20:38 -0600
From: "John Hernandez" 
Organization: NOAA Boulder NOC
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: [lug] Workstation or CUSTOME
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

I tend to choose Custom and then select "Everything" (at the bottom of 
the subsequent list). Disk is cheap, and I don't like wasting time 
going back to fetch RPMs later. Plus, it largely eliminates the 
dependency hunt problem. Another benefit is that you'll be likely to 
have the latest version if you use an automated RPM update system; I've 
seen people go back to distribution CDs and install older, vulnerable 
versions of packages and forget to immediately update. Of course, YMMV.

Yuko Jonah wrote:
> What is the difference between workstation and custom setup when 
> installing redhat.
> 
> which one is the better option.
> 
> thanx,
> 
> yj
> 
> 
> 
> " Those who perpertrate evil on their fellow men shall
> be visited by evil."
> ---Kenule Saro-wiwa
> 
> Yuko Jonah
> yuko_j at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Do You Yahoo!?*
> Yahoo! Health - 
> your guide to health and wellness


-- 

- John Hernandez - Network Engineer - 303-497-6392 -
| National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration |
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 11:30:45 -0600
From: Evelyn Mitchell 
To: frpythoneers at lists.community.tummy.com
Cc: nclug at nclug.org, lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: [lug] FRPythoneers May Meeting **Location Change**
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

For the May meeting *only*, we will be meeting in B243 of the Mamie Doud
Eisenhower Public Library in Broomfield. The address is 3 Community Park
Road Broomfield, CO 80020

The room is on the second floor of the library at the top of the stairs.

Who: Cary Miller, University of Colorado Health Sciences Center
What: Python and Bioinformatics
Where: Broomfield Public Library, Room B243
When: May 20th 6:30-9:00pm
Why: To learn and discuss all things related to Python programming

Cary will be discussing his work at the Center for Computational
Pharmacology.

The Front Range Pythoneers meets the 3rd Monday of the Month from
6:30-9:00pm. Our mailing list is at 
http://lists.community.tummy.com/mailman/listinfo/frpythoneers

All those interested in the programming language Python are welcome to
attend. Meetings are free.

-- 
Regards, tummy.com, ltd 
Evelyn Mitchell Linux Consulting since 1995
efm at tummy.com Senior System and Network Administrators
http://www.tummy.com/

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 11:39:30 -0600
From: "John Hernandez" 
Organization: NOAA Boulder NOC
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: Re: [lug] Workstation or CUSTOME
Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us

This probably goes without saying, but be sure to turn off ALL network 
servers BEFORE putting the machine on the 'net. You can use 'netstat 
-pan' or 'lsof -i' to see what's on. Once RPMs are updated, only then 
should you turn back on any services that are needed. To be thorough, 
also check the state of services after a reboot (while unplugged from 
the 'net).

John Hernandez wrote:
> I tend to choose Custom and then select "Everything" (at the bottom of 
> the subsequent list). Disk is cheap, and I don't like wasting time 
> going back to fetch RPMs later. Plus, it largely eliminates the 
> dependency hunt problem. Another benefit is that you'll be likely to 
> have the latest version if you use an automated RPM update system; I've 
> seen people go back to distribution CDs and install older, vulnerable 
> versions of packages and forget to immediately update. Of course, YMMV.
> 
> Yuko Jonah wrote:
> 
>> What is the difference between workstation and custom setup when 
>> installing redhat.
>>
>> which one is the better option.
>>
>> thanx,
>>
>> yj
>>
>>
>>
>> " Those who perpertrate evil on their fellow men shall
>> be visited by evil."
>> ---Kenule Saro-wiwa
>>
>> Yuko Jonah
>> yuko_j at yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Do You Yahoo!?*
>> Yahoo! Health - 
>> your guide to health and wellness
> 
> 
> 


-- 

- John Hernandez - Network Engineer - 303-497-6392 -
| National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration |
| Mailstop R/OM12. 325 Broadway, Boulder, CO 80305 |
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