[lug] KRUD comments wanted

Peter Hutnick peter-lists at hutnick.com
Tue Aug 12 17:09:21 MDT 2003


> Many of the core reasons for doing KRUD, such as slow or non-existent
> Internet connections have gone away over the last several years.
>
> Some of the core reasons, such as an improved package selection are
> still very relevant.

I'm not a KRUD user, so I'm not going to post on that list . . . but as
always, I'm more than happy to kick in my two cents here ;-)

IMO your analysis is on the money and intellectually honest. 
Congratulations!

Consider Freshrpms (http://freshrpms.net/) as a model for the kind of
thing that is still needed.  I recently had two very good experiences
there.

1. I wanted to switch to ALSA.  Took me less time to download, install,
configure, and test the freshrpms than it would have just to compile from
the tarballs.  (Not to mention realizing I needed a different kernel
source RPM, then troubleshooting a suddenly non-functional NIC once I got
the sound working.)

2. flew through the nightmarish dependencies of MythTV using their
packages (including apt).  Totally refocused the project off of dependency
hell and back onto cool TV stuff.  Nice.

I find this infinitely less frustrating than trying to shoehorn some
Mandrake Cooker RPM in.

Maybe a simple way to say what I'm trying to say would be: a shift away
from "more up to date (!) Red Hat than Red Hat" to "boutique RPMs, as easy
as Red Hat's own RPMs."

-Peter





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