[lug] Rack for colo coop?

D. Stimits stimits at comcast.net
Sun Aug 17 21:23:36 MDT 2003


Frank Whiteley wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey Siegal"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:52
> Subject: Re: [lug] Rack for colo coop?
>
>
>
> >Rob Nagler wrote:
> >
> >>Sean Reifschneider writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>It's for 100mbps or 1gbps of bandwidth, not just a port charge for the
> >>>connection to them.  They don't really say exactly what their 
> connection
> >>
> >>>from Denver to Sacramento and Denver to Kansas City is.  They imply 
> that
> >>
> >>>it's 80gbps delivered over OC192s.
> >>
> >>
> >>So they can only bring in $2.4M/month (80 x 30) before the pipe
> >>overflows.
> >
> >You're assuming that every customer does in fact max out their pipe.
> >Though it is true that prices like that will attract bandwidth-heavy
> >users, it is still probably the case that many will use *far* less.
> >
>
> Which is why over-subscriptions are common.  In conversations about 
> Cogent,
> others have indicated to me that 2% packet loss is pretty common and
> unacceptable and given as the primary reason for not using Cogent for 
> a main
> pipe.  Price isn't everything.
>
> I note one wireless ISP (www.pathbroadband.com) that has moved from Cogent
> to Level3 recently.  Don't know if performance or financials were factors.


Level3 sponsors the popup spam to windows UDP port 1026. I wouldn't go 
near those jerks. This is the source of www.byebyeads.com blindly 
spamming port 1026 then asking for a fee to stop them from doing it.

D. Stimits, stimits AT comcast DOT net




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