[lug] Postfix/spam reality check question..

Chip Atkinson chip at pupman.com
Wed Dec 1 14:12:46 MST 2004


Ok, that means that the earlier behavior I thought I was seeing was
other screening such as to invalid users.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Lee Woodworth wrote:

> Chip Atkinson wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply. From the header, it doesn't look like it's
> > forwarded.  It's certainly not from an MTA/MUA that is friendly and above
> > board.  The weird thing is the "To:" is totally wrong.  That's why I
> > thought a message like this would have been rejected.
> I finished reading the SPF white paper. I don't think that SPF (non-MS 
> infected versions) checks mime headers (From:, To:, Reply-To: etc). It 
> checks against the EHLO and MAIL FROM (Return-Path:) command values.
> 
> The thing to know about SPF is it only makes definitive pass/fail 
> decisions when a domain publishes SPF info in their DNS. Otherwise it 
> can't tell whether something is a forgery. Neither ix.netcom.com or 
> bluewin.ch are publishing a DNS TXT record with spf info, so the safe 
> thing for SPF to do is classify it is unknown and let it through. You 
> need SPF to let unknown through otherwise all mail from non-spf 
> publishing domains would be blocked (e.g. ibm.com, epa.gov, comcast.net).
> > 
> > Return-Path: <mrbarton at ix.netcom.com>
> > X-Original-To: chip at pupman.com
> > Delivered-To: chip at pupman.com
> > X-Greylist: delayed 1690 seconds by postgrey-1.16 at poodle; Wed,
> >      01 Dec 2004 10:55:51 MST
> > Received: from mx8.bluewin.ch (mx8.bluewin.ch [195.186.4.211])
> >         by poodle.pupman.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23712F659
> >         for <chip at pupman.com>; Wed,  1 Dec 2004 10:55:51 -0700 (MST)
> > Received: from localhost (81.63.52.189) by mx8.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG
> > 7.0.030.2)
> >         id 41A198D8004EF949; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:27:35 +0000
> > From: <mrbarton at ix.netcom.com>
> > Reply-To: <mrbarton at ix.netcom.com>
> > X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> > X-MailScanner: Found to be clean
> > Subject: Re: Hi, po  heres the document
> > To: <po at bluemail.ch>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="dGDWmEQjIJmigFBYYLvtAsSDIOvydonm"
> > Message-Id: <20041201175551.23712F659 at poodle.pupman.com>
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