[lug] [OT!] Help with rsx/DEC

rm at fabula.de rm at fabula.de
Tue Apr 5 03:45:03 MDT 2005


On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 01:43:44PM -0600, Wagner, Carl wrote:
> If you are still running the PDP, have you considered running the
> application under a simulator?  You could save a lot of power and floor
> space that way.   
> 
> http://simh.trailing-edge.com/

I have it running here too ...

> I have played with SIMH as a VAX and it is pretty cool, and it runs
> under Linux!  You install it and then install the OS (in my case VMS)
> from CD or possibly disk image.  It looks like they have quite a few PDP
> emulators. 

The problem here is licencing. RSX is still _sold_ (DEC sold the rights to
one of the simulator companies - there's still quite a market for that kind
of stuff: lot's of places that can't take the risk to switch).

> The only hard part would be getting the RSX OS in a format
> that you could install from, but you could probably find that on the web
> some ware.  I see RT-11, RSTS, and Unix for the PDP 11 on the simh
> webpage. (didn't see RSX though)

Well, they recently moved to a hardware emulator - so the "tapes" are there.
It's a pitty they spent all that money for a hardware solution - a software
emulator would be much simpler to debug :-/

 Cheer RalfD

> Carl.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces at lug.boulder.co.us
> [mailto:lug-bounces at lug.boulder.co.us] On Behalf Of Lori Reed
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:58 PM
> To: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [lug] [OT!] Help with rsx/DEC
> 
> 
> Ignore much of my last post, I must be on crack. :)
> 
> VT-100 keyboards were (are?) less sophisticated than I remember. They
> lack such common niceties as [Page Up]/[Page Down]. Here's a pic:
> 
> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/vt100-keyboard.html
> 
> Based on that pic, this seems to be a complete set of key sequences:
> 
> http://www.nw.com/nw/WWW/products/wizcon/vt100.html
> 
> 
> BTW, who has a still running PDP-11?
> 
> Lori
> 
> 
> rm at fabula.de wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > mostly OT (but Linux is involved on the client side):
> > A friend of mine needs to write some code that interacts with a PDP11 
> > runninf RSX via telnet. At some point someone seems to have adapted 
> > the application in such a way that it will react to keyboard input 
> > from a (remote) PC keyboard as if it where a VT100 keyboard (so PGUp 
> > et al. will do "the right thing"). This only happens when accessed via
> 
> > telnet so it most likely is a "feature" of the telnet application. 
> > Unfortunately no one has any clue about the exact mapping of keys. So 
> > the big question is: where are such key mappings defined in RSX? (is 
> > there something like termcap/terminfo). My first guess was that the 
> > server sends the usual ^e (terminal enquire) but this doesn't happen.
> > 
> > TIA info
> > 
> >      Ralf Mattes
> > 
> > PS: are the RSX/DEC manuals online? I found some stuff at 
> > www.36bit.org and www.bitsavers.org but not to much admin infos.
> 
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