[lug] OT: Colocation Providers

Mon Aug 17 16:20:58 MDT 2009

Ahh okay, my bad.  I think I'm thinking of that one down near the
Auraria Parkway exit off of I-25.  Not sure their name all of a sudden
for some reason.

--
  Nate Duehr
  nate at natetech.com

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:08 -0600, "George Sexton"
<georges at mhsoftware.com> wrote:
> This is across the street from the Denver Coliseum.  I don't think it's
> in a
> flood plain.
> 
> George Sexton
> MH Software, Inc.
> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> Voice: 303 438 9585
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces at lug.boulder.co.us [mailto:lug-
> > bounces at lug.boulder.co.us] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
> > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:58 PM
> > To: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [lug] OT: Colocation Providers
> > 
> > Not to pick on them, but if that's the building I think it is... it's
> > also WAY below the 10-year Cherry Creek flood plane level...
> > 
> > If you have off-site backups and good insurance... well, anyway... not
> > even sure it's the building I'm thinking of... but there are some down
> > there near Downtown Denver that are in REALLY bad locations, as it
> > relates to level above the river...
> > 
> > --
> >   Nate Duehr
> >   nate at natetech.com
> > 
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:35 -0600, "George Sexton"
> > <georges at mhsoftware.com> wrote:
> > > Sean,
> > >
> > > I looked at Fortrust. They're actually selling shared cabinet space.
> > 4U
> > > for
> > > $199 per month. I was really impressed with their facility. I was
> > going
> > > to
> > > sign with them, but then I balked at the contract. They have a clause
> > > that
> > > requires a rather large insurance policy, with an endorsement making
> > them
> > > a
> > > beneficiary, and along with that, you have to get the insurance
> > provider
> > > to
> > > provide some sort of legal waiver. It was just ridiculous to have
> > that
> > > kind
> > > of requirement for placing a 1U server.
> > >
> > > I also pointed out an error in their contract to their benefit and
> > they
> > > got
> > > kind of argumentative and said I didn't understand it. I came away
> > with
> > > the
> > > feeling that they weren't taking me seriously. My wife was a little
> > > freaked
> > > out by the location too. She pictures me going there at 1:00 AM on a
> > > Sunday
> > > morning and wigs out. They have the nice big fortress like fence and
> > gate
> > > in
> > > the front, but the customers come in through the side by the rail-
> > road
> > > tracks...
> > >
> > > Between those things I decided not to go there.
> > >
> > > George Sexton
> > > MH Software, Inc.
> > > http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> > > Voice: 303 438 9585
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: lug-bounces at lug.boulder.co.us [mailto:lug-
> > > > bounces at lug.boulder.co.us] On Behalf Of Sean Reifschneider
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:33 PM
> > > > To: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [lug] OT: Colocation Providers
> > > >
> > > > On 08/17/2009 01:38 PM, Michael J. Hammel wrote:
> > > > > Tummy.com runs my server.  They're based in Ft. Collins but I
> > think
> > > > the
> > > > > data center is in Denver.  I think.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Michael.  However, I will note that we don't do co-location
> > --
> > > > only
> > > > managed hosting and virtual hosting.  We don't allow third-party
> > access
> > > > to
> > > > our site, which has its advantages and disadvantages.
> > > >
> > > > The advantages are that we provide the hardware, so you don't have
> > to
> > > > manage or keep spares, etc...  If it breaks at 3am on a Saturday
> > > > morning,
> > > > because we own the hardware we can go in and take care of it
> > without
> > > > bothering you.  But, if you really want to own the hardware, this
> > is a
> > > > disadvantage.  We also do monitoring of the system.
> > > >
> > > > To give you an idea, pricing is $150/month for a core 2 duo system
> > with
> > > > dual RAID-1 1TB drives and 2GB of RAM.  We also have virtual
> > systems
> > > > with
> > > > 512MB RAM and 40GB disc for $25/month.
> > > >
> > > > The facility we're in doesn't do anything smaller than a whole
> > cabinet,
> > > > so it's probably not an option unless your budget is at least a
> > grand
> > > > a month.  It is indeed in Denver, near I-25 and I-70, and it's a
> > great
> > > > facility.  It's called Fortrust and if you're looking for a whole
> > > > cabinet
> > > > or more I'd highly recommend them.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not that familiar with area colo providers, because I'm just
> > not in
> > > > that market, but I've heard good things about Netrack in Boulder,
> > and
> > > > they'll do single systems.   I believe Data393 will also do smaller
> > > > space
> > > > allocations, but they're located in the DTC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> > > > --
> > > > Sean Reifschneider, Member of Technical Staff <jafo at tummy.com>
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> > >
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