[lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
G R
rttin at comcast.net
Tue May 10 13:33:18 MDT 2011
> No more Skype support for Linux?
one may dream Micro$oft won't ruin Skype. seems to be just more work for the mcse group for another M$ product.
stand guard at the portal of Thought
S i r G R
rttin at comcast.net
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> 4. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (Jose Castilleja)
> 5. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (Michael J. Hammel)
> 6. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (Bruce Long)
> 7. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (Davide Del Vento)
> 8. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (Jason Vallery)
> 9. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (Will)
> 10. Re: No more Skype support for Linux? (David L. Willson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 21:06:00 -0600 (MDT)
> From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson at TheGeek.NU>
> Subject: Re: [lug] another addition to the "Getting started"
> discussion
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
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> How did I let this message get by?
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> Ash, come to the BLUG meeting this Thurday night. There will be discussion of this very topic.
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> My opinion is that goal-based training is rarely a waste and that certifications are among the most practical of goals.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ash Mohatt" <ash.mohatt at gmail.com>
> To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:05:37 AM
> Subject: [lug] another addition to the "Getting started" discussion
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> Good Morning!
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> I am "not in the pool yet:" but have gotten my feet wet. I have met most of the prereqs, still a few suggestions from you all to follow. I might become redundant in my current position, so I'm looking for a way to jump into the IT pool head first.
> As an introductory IT professional, are comptia certifications a good way of getting in the door? I'm looking at getting the A+, server+ and Linux+ in addition to the ACMT from Apple. Is this money wasted?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:18:54 -0600
> From: Erik Lenderman <e.lenderman33 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lug] another addition to the "Getting started"
> discussion
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
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> What is the date, time, and location of BLUG's Thursday meeting?
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> Erik
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> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu>wrote:
>
>> How did I let this message get by?
>>
>> Ash, come to the BLUG meeting this Thurday night. There will be discussion
>> of this very topic.
>>
>> My opinion is that goal-based training is rarely a waste and that
>> certifications are among the most practical of goals.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ash Mohatt" <ash.mohatt at gmail.com>
>> To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:05:37 AM
>> Subject: [lug] another addition to the "Getting started" discussion
>>
>>
>> Good Morning!
>>
>>
>> I am "not in the pool yet:" but have gotten my feet wet. I have met most of
>> the prereqs, still a few suggestions from you all to follow. I might become
>> redundant in my current position, so I'm looking for a way to jump into the
>> IT pool head first.
>> As an introductory IT professional, are comptia certifications a good way
>> of getting in the door? I'm looking at getting the A+, server+ and Linux+ in
>> addition to the ACMT from Apple. Is this money wasted?
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:24:04 -0600
> From: Lori Reed <lorireed at lightning-rose.com>
> Subject: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
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> "Microsoft has agreed to buy the popular Internet telephone service
> Skype for $8.5 billion in the biggest deal in the software maker's
> 36-year history."
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/09/state/n201712D62.DTL&tsp=1
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>
> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>
> Lori
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:25:07 -0600
> From: Jose Castilleja <tilleja at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
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> Not sure, but GoogleTalk?
>
> On 5/10/11 8:24 AM, Lori Reed wrote:
>> "Microsoft has agreed to buy the popular Internet telephone service
>> Skype for $8.5 billion in the biggest deal in the software maker's
>> 36-year history."
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/09/state/n201712D62.DTL&tsp=1
>>
>>
>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>>
>> Lori
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:36:57 -0600
> From: "Michael J. Hammel" <mjhammel at graphics-muse.org>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
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> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:24 -0600, Lori Reed wrote:
>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>
> Ekiga. Haven't used it much because I don't know anyone else using it.
> http://ekiga.org/ - desktop tool
> https://www.ekiga.net/ - service provider
> --
> Michael J. Hammel <mjhammel at graphics-muse.org>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:51:38 -0600
> From: Bruce Long <qstream at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
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> I'm (still) working on what can be used as an infrastructure for one. It
> will be a little different. The idea is to get my voice stream to the person
> I'm calling (if I have permission to do so). So whether that means VOIP,
> POTS, patching my voice into his music stream, or calling his friend
> because the person I want to talk to has lost his phone. But my project is
> for facilitating general interactions among people and things; not just
> voice communication. So it may be a year or two before I get to voice.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Lori Reed <lorireed at lightning-rose.com>wrote:
>
>> "Microsoft has agreed to buy the popular Internet telephone service
>> Skype for $8.5 billion in the biggest deal in the software maker's
>> 36-year history."
>>
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/09/state/n201712D62.DTL&tsp=1
>>
>>
>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>>
>> Lori
>>
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> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:28:33 -0600
> From: Davide Del Vento <davide.del.vento at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
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>>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>>
>> Ekiga. ?Haven't used it much because I don't know anyone else using it.
>> http://ekiga.org/ - desktop tool
>> https://www.ekiga.net/ - service provider
>
> I tried Ekiga about 2 years ago. It kind of worked. Like a car you
> build by yourself from scrap metal does, thought. You won't use it for
> more than a trip around the block. Video was almost impossible to
> stream. Voice was more mature, but (back to the car example), just for
> a trip in town, you don't want to go out of town with that wreck. I'd
> be interested if anybody tries it now, maybe 2 years have been enough
> to make it production-ready.
>
> I used skype a lot for my weekly videocall to my relatives oversea
> (note: I only have linux boxes in my house and office: no Mac or
> windows). With the like-myself-geek-and-free-software-advocate oversea
> relative, I tried to stick with Ekiga, but it lasted two weeks (i.e. 2
> calls), then we switches to skype. If something it's unreliable, it
> doesn't matter if it's geeky or free software.
>
> When Google released this http://www.google.com/chat/video for Linux I
> tried it, and as soon as it worked with my webcam (at first it didn't)
> I started using it "in production". I find it better than skype. As
> many Google things it's browser based, but it requires you install a
> proprietary plugin - if you don't you can't use it, so you have to be
> root on the relevant machine (which I don't like, and in fact I
> haven't installed on the machine where I do internet banking, but
> anyway...)
> The same plugin is used for Firefox and Chrome (not sure about
> epiphany and the likes)
>
> This Google Thing works better than skype in my experience, more
> reliable on flaky internet connections, more "tunable", less dropped
> calls, no new passwords to learn (I think I created 7 skype accounts
> just because I always forgot the password and couldn't get it back):
>
> 1) the video freezes when the bandwidth does not allow, keeping the
> audio going, as opposed to breaking your eardrums with noise like
> skype did.
> 2) the video window is freely resizable: the more you enlarge the more
> bandwidth it needs.
> 3) I also like that'ss well integrated with gmail and its text chat,
> so I can search for chat history of any of my 7 computers without
> installing the client (I guess that might be a cons to some)
> 4) I like Google more than the often-owner-changing skype (I guess
> that might be a cons to some)
> 5) I liked the interface better than skype, which is confusing for me:
> too many irrelevant
>
>
> HTH, YMMV, etc.
>
> Davide
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:45:38 -0600
> From: Jason Vallery <jason at vallery.net>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=nHJBt6-=kpm1un9634mRrr4eRDQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> Ballmer is giving a press conference right now.
>
> "Fundamental to the value proposition of communications is being able to
> reach anyone regardless of the platform they use.'
>
> Let's remain optimistic! For some reason recently I seem to only post on
> here in defense of Microsoft these days. :\
> -JV
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Davide Del Vento <
> davide.del.vento at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>>>
>>> Ekiga. Haven't used it much because I don't know anyone else using it.
>>> http://ekiga.org/ - desktop tool
>>> https://www.ekiga.net/ - service provider
>>
>> I tried Ekiga about 2 years ago. It kind of worked. Like a car you
>> build by yourself from scrap metal does, thought. You won't use it for
>> more than a trip around the block. Video was almost impossible to
>> stream. Voice was more mature, but (back to the car example), just for
>> a trip in town, you don't want to go out of town with that wreck. I'd
>> be interested if anybody tries it now, maybe 2 years have been enough
>> to make it production-ready.
>>
>> I used skype a lot for my weekly videocall to my relatives oversea
>> (note: I only have linux boxes in my house and office: no Mac or
>> windows). With the like-myself-geek-and-free-software-advocate oversea
>> relative, I tried to stick with Ekiga, but it lasted two weeks (i.e. 2
>> calls), then we switches to skype. If something it's unreliable, it
>> doesn't matter if it's geeky or free software.
>>
>> When Google released this http://www.google.com/chat/video for Linux I
>> tried it, and as soon as it worked with my webcam (at first it didn't)
>> I started using it "in production". I find it better than skype. As
>> many Google things it's browser based, but it requires you install a
>> proprietary plugin - if you don't you can't use it, so you have to be
>> root on the relevant machine (which I don't like, and in fact I
>> haven't installed on the machine where I do internet banking, but
>> anyway...)
>> The same plugin is used for Firefox and Chrome (not sure about
>> epiphany and the likes)
>>
>> This Google Thing works better than skype in my experience, more
>> reliable on flaky internet connections, more "tunable", less dropped
>> calls, no new passwords to learn (I think I created 7 skype accounts
>> just because I always forgot the password and couldn't get it back):
>>
>> 1) the video freezes when the bandwidth does not allow, keeping the
>> audio going, as opposed to breaking your eardrums with noise like
>> skype did.
>> 2) the video window is freely resizable: the more you enlarge the more
>> bandwidth it needs.
>> 3) I also like that'ss well integrated with gmail and its text chat,
>> so I can search for chat history of any of my 7 computers without
>> installing the client (I guess that might be a cons to some)
>> 4) I like Google more than the often-owner-changing skype (I guess
>> that might be a cons to some)
>> 5) I liked the interface better than skype, which is confusing for me:
>> too many irrelevant
>>
>>
>> HTH, YMMV, etc.
>>
>> Davide
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:51:20 -0600
> From: Will <will.sterling at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
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> Maybe being an also ran in two markets, hand helds & tablets,
> will force Microsoft to embrace, gasp, interoperability.
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Jason Vallery <jason at vallery.net> wrote:
>
>> Ballmer is giving a press conference right now.
>>
>> "Fundamental to the value proposition of communications is being able to
>> reach anyone regardless of the platform they use.'
>>
>> Let's remain optimistic! For some reason recently I seem to only post on
>> here in defense of Microsoft these days. :\
>> -JV
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Davide Del Vento <
>> davide.del.vento at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>>>>
>>>> Ekiga. Haven't used it much because I don't know anyone else using it.
>>>> http://ekiga.org/ - desktop tool
>>>> https://www.ekiga.net/ - service provider
>>>
>>> I tried Ekiga about 2 years ago. It kind of worked. Like a car you
>>> build by yourself from scrap metal does, thought. You won't use it for
>>> more than a trip around the block. Video was almost impossible to
>>> stream. Voice was more mature, but (back to the car example), just for
>>> a trip in town, you don't want to go out of town with that wreck. I'd
>>> be interested if anybody tries it now, maybe 2 years have been enough
>>> to make it production-ready.
>>>
>>> I used skype a lot for my weekly videocall to my relatives oversea
>>> (note: I only have linux boxes in my house and office: no Mac or
>>> windows). With the like-myself-geek-and-free-software-advocate oversea
>>> relative, I tried to stick with Ekiga, but it lasted two weeks (i.e. 2
>>> calls), then we switches to skype. If something it's unreliable, it
>>> doesn't matter if it's geeky or free software.
>>>
>>> When Google released this http://www.google.com/chat/video for Linux I
>>> tried it, and as soon as it worked with my webcam (at first it didn't)
>>> I started using it "in production". I find it better than skype. As
>>> many Google things it's browser based, but it requires you install a
>>> proprietary plugin - if you don't you can't use it, so you have to be
>>> root on the relevant machine (which I don't like, and in fact I
>>> haven't installed on the machine where I do internet banking, but
>>> anyway...)
>>> The same plugin is used for Firefox and Chrome (not sure about
>>> epiphany and the likes)
>>>
>>> This Google Thing works better than skype in my experience, more
>>> reliable on flaky internet connections, more "tunable", less dropped
>>> calls, no new passwords to learn (I think I created 7 skype accounts
>>> just because I always forgot the password and couldn't get it back):
>>>
>>> 1) the video freezes when the bandwidth does not allow, keeping the
>>> audio going, as opposed to breaking your eardrums with noise like
>>> skype did.
>>> 2) the video window is freely resizable: the more you enlarge the more
>>> bandwidth it needs.
>>> 3) I also like that'ss well integrated with gmail and its text chat,
>>> so I can search for chat history of any of my 7 computers without
>>> installing the client (I guess that might be a cons to some)
>>> 4) I like Google more than the often-owner-changing skype (I guess
>>> that might be a cons to some)
>>> 5) I liked the interface better than skype, which is confusing for me:
>>> too many irrelevant
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH, YMMV, etc.
>>>
>>> Davide
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Web Page: http://lug.boulder.co.us
>>> Mailing List: http://lists.lug.boulder.co.us/mailman/listinfo/lug
>>> Join us on IRC: irc.hackingsociety.org port=6667 channel=#hackingsociety
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jason Vallery
>> jason at vallery.net
>>
>> mobile: +1.720.352.8822
>> web: http://vallery.net/
>> twitter: jvallery
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:27:44 -0600 (MDT)
> From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson at TheGeek.NU>
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List"
> <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> Message-ID: <969087c1-fa52-460b-96fb-894e8af33833 at dlwillson-laptop>
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> Microsoft is good at embrace. Embrace, extend, and exterminate. Word Perfect, Netscape, Netware. Are there others?
>
> Red Hat, Canonical, and to some extent Novell, are good vendors, because they believe in free software, enough to be bound by the GPL, and to abide its spirit, which ensures that "embrace and extend" are easy and low-risk, and "exterminate" is highly unlikely.
>
> Microsoft will be a good, trustworthy vendor, when they embrace the spirit of the GPL, rather than condemning it. From here, that looks like never, but I could be wrong. It is a company full of smart, motivated geeks, and with Geek, anything is possible.
>
> Until that fine, though unlikely day, it's probably a good idea to keep one's interactions with Microsoft discrete, finite, minimal.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Will" <will.sterling at gmail.com>
> To: "Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List" <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:51:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [lug] No more Skype support for Linux?
>
>
> Maybe being an also ran in two markets, hand helds & tablets, will force Microsoft to embrace, gasp, interoperability.
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Jason Vallery < jason at vallery.net > wrote:
>
>
> Ballmer is giving a press conference right now.
>
>
> "Fundamental to the value proposition of communications is being able to reach anyone regardless of the platform they use.'
>
>
> Let's remain optimistic! For some reason recently I seem to only post on here in defense of Microsoft these days. :\
> -JV
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Davide Del Vento < davide.del.vento at gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>>> Are there any other Internet phone services available for Linux?
>>
>> Ekiga. Haven't used it much because I don't know anyone else using it.
>> http://ekiga.org/ - desktop tool
>> https://www.ekiga.net/ - service provider
>
> I tried Ekiga about 2 years ago. It kind of worked. Like a car you
> build by yourself from scrap metal does, thought. You won't use it for
> more than a trip around the block. Video was almost impossible to
> stream. Voice was more mature, but (back to the car example), just for
> a trip in town, you don't want to go out of town with that wreck. I'd
> be interested if anybody tries it now, maybe 2 years have been enough
> to make it production-ready.
>
> I used skype a lot for my weekly videocall to my relatives oversea
> (note: I only have linux boxes in my house and office: no Mac or
> windows). With the like-myself-geek-and-free-software-advocate oversea
> relative, I tried to stick with Ekiga, but it lasted two weeks (i.e. 2
> calls), then we switches to skype. If something it's unreliable, it
> doesn't matter if it's geeky or free software.
>
> When Google released this http://www.google.com/chat/video for Linux I
> tried it, and as soon as it worked with my webcam (at first it didn't)
> I started using it "in production". I find it better than skype. As
> many Google things it's browser based, but it requires you install a
> proprietary plugin - if you don't you can't use it, so you have to be
> root on the relevant machine (which I don't like, and in fact I
> haven't installed on the machine where I do internet banking, but
> anyway...)
> The same plugin is used for Firefox and Chrome (not sure about
> epiphany and the likes)
>
> This Google Thing works better than skype in my experience, more
> reliable on flaky internet connections, more "tunable", less dropped
> calls, no new passwords to learn (I think I created 7 skype accounts
> just because I always forgot the password and couldn't get it back):
>
> 1) the video freezes when the bandwidth does not allow, keeping the
> audio going, as opposed to breaking your eardrums with noise like
> skype did.
> 2) the video window is freely resizable: the more you enlarge the more
> bandwidth it needs.
> 3) I also like that'ss well integrated with gmail and its text chat,
> so I can search for chat history of any of my 7 computers without
> installing the client (I guess that might be a cons to some)
> 4) I like Google more than the often-owner-changing skype (I guess
> that might be a cons to some)
> 5) I liked the interface better than skype, which is confusing for me:
> too many irrelevant
>
>
> HTH, YMMV, etc.
>
> Davide
>
>
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