[lug] java in iceweasel on debian

[Steve Sullivan]

Davide, you bring up a good issue...

AFAIK there is NO good way to post real interactive content to
the web.  If a person wanted a real program (more than just
onclick) to run on the client, the contenders are ...

  Flash - ubiquitous, with ubiquitous security holes and a
          primitive language (IMHO!)
  Java  - klunky, often not supported, tricky dependencies on versions
  SVG   - very limited programming language, not supported in all browsers
  HTML5 - very limited programming language, not supported in all browsers
  Javascript - widely supported, but wide differences in browser implementations
  Dart - Google's attempt to replace Javascript.  Haven't heard
         a word about it since it was announced.  DOA?

Seems to me Javascript is becoming the sort-of standard.
I say "sort of" because it requires thick layers to shield
the programmer from all the implementation differences.
Your thoughts?

Steve



On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 09:45:11AM -0600, Davide Del Vento wrote:
> 
> Because in my opinion applets (the java stuff you run in a browser) is
> not the right thing to have in a "web page". Applets are that middle
> thing between "pure web" and "pure native apps": neither fish nor
> fowl, in my opinion (by the way, I think the same of flash).
> ...
> Well, than it depends on how strongly do you want that. Myself, I
> browse the web with noscript, and I activate something beyond pure
> HTML and CSS only on a very limited set of sites, if I really have
> very strong reasons for.

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