[lug] Remember Y2K?

[Stephen Queen]

The week ends on Saturday because that is the Sabbath in Judo-Christian
culture. Remember in Genesis God rested on the 7th day. After that Saturday
became the day of rest. Some Christians have the belief that Sunday is the
Sabbath. Actually it is the Lord's day. Jesus rose from the dead on Sunday.


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Bear Giles <bgiles at coyotesong.com> wrote:

> Why do you think that "weeks starts on Sunday" is used by the "vast
> majority" of Westerners? I would have guessed "weeks starts on Monday".
>
> On %p vs. %P, I'm sure a lot of this is historical. Someone did %p since
> %a was already in use, then somebody else decided that it would be nice to
> have that string in lower case but %p was already used. You can't change
> existing behavior. So what do you use?
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Jed S. Baer <blug at jbaer.cotse.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:27:45 -0700
>> Davide Del Vento wrote:
>>
>> > > So besides being an abomination, %W I think violates the rule of least
>> > > surprise.
>> >
>> > Besides what others have said about ISO and private businesses rules for
>> > when a week starts...
>> > What least surprise?
>>
>> The surprise that happens when you're testing or relying on a function,
>> looking at your calendar and counting weeks, and getting a result you're
>> not anticipating? This is surprising because, to quote Reb Tevye,
>> "Tradition!" Simple observation shows that the vast majority of
>> Westerners consider Sunday to the be 1st day of the week. Res ipsa
>> loquitur. The least surprising thing would be, if one is using W as a
>> format specifier for week, to use the most common weekday as your
>> starting day. However, investigation of the man page shows that using the
>> most obvious formulation isn't a strong point of that function, e.g.:
>>
>> %p     locale's equivalent of either AM or PM; blank if not known
>> %P     like %p, but lower case
>>
>> Wouldn't it be more intuitive and easy to remember if the capital form of
>> the format specifier produced a capitalized result?
>>
>> I am, indeed, thumbing my nose at ISO 8601. It dates from 1988. The
>> Gregorian Calendar was established in 1582. So Phththht!
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