[lug] De-index service

Andrew Louder ajlouder at yahoo.com
Tue May 13 11:59:31 MDT 2014


Very interesting
On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:51 AM, Davide Del Vento <davide.del.vento at gmail.com> wrote:
 
In case you missed, looks like the EU equivalent of the supreme court
disagreed: http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/05/13/312156200/big-questions-now-that-europeans-can-edit-google-search-results

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Bear Giles <bgiles at coyotesong.com> wrote:
> People can figure out if reviews are astroturfed (or whatever the term is).
>
> On Google/Bing/etc., think of it from their side. If they had a way to
> exercise fine control over search results they would be inundated by people
> suing them to tweak the results. They have very compelling reasons to make
> it impossible.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Andrew Louder <ajlouder at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree there are valid and invalid review out there.  What can you about
>> a fabricated review?
>>
>> My question on was on "De-indexing" a search engine to remove search
>> results, rather than taking down taking down a review/blog...
>>
>> Let's say someone has unfavorable yelp review that shows up when you
>> google their name.
>> (1) I was wondering if someone know how "De-index" an unfavorable search
>> result from google/bing...
>> (2) I was not attempting to eliminate the yelp review.
>>
>> The best idea I have come up with: is to make many favorable reviews
>> rather trying to implement a counter-measure against unfavorable search
>> results.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 31, 2014 4:53 PM, Bear Giles <bgiles at coyotesong.com>
>> wrote:
>> Expanding on that - "unfavorable reviews"? Do they have a point?
>>
>> By that I mean there's a lot of stuff that's unfair and that you can't
>> really do anything about. All you can do is what Davide suggests.
>>
>> On the other hand I've seen a lot of people with legitimate grievances, or
>> at least what they perceive as legitimate, who are getting blown off by the
>> other parties involved. They may feel that the only place they can be heard
>> is on their own blog, or at a gripe site. At a certain point it even becomes
>> self-reinforcing, e.g., I didn't stop shopping at Safeway because they
>> screwed up a $10 off coupon, I stopped shopping there because I couldn't
>> find any meaningful way to give them feedback other than to talk to the
>> store manager who had just demonstrated (to me) that she's an idiot. A
>> missing $10 is annoying, but what if there's a serious food safety concern
>> and the manager on duty blows it off - what next?
>>
>> Anyway sometimes you can answer the point on that site (e.g., many review
>> sites allow the subject to respond), sometimes you can copy the complaint
>> and include your response on your own website. You have to be VERY careful
>> if you take this approach - it's very easy to make a bad situation worse -
>> but most people know that everyone has the occasional bad day, that some
>> people make unreasonable demands, etc. Handle it well and you can come out
>> ahead.
>>
>> Marginally related for the BLUG crowd - remember years ago (nearly two
>> decades?) when that one guy would post allegations of child sexual abuse
>> about anyone who disagreed with him? I'm sure that type is still out there
>> but (hopefully) most people can now see through that crap. We might think
>> our google profiles are lacking but it's hard for one person to control
>> everything said about someone.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Davide Del Vento
>> <davide.del.vento at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is not such a thing as "de-index". However, unlike what others
>> said, you have two options.
>>
>> 1) if the information you are trying to make is clearly incorrect, and
>> if it has been posted on serious websites, you (or your pay-service)
>> can contact them and have it removed. E.g.: wikipedia, all decent news
>> websites, etc. This is usually a tough call.
>>
>> 2) if one of the two requirements above is not met (e.g. the
>> information is correct, but embarrassing -- or if it has been
>> published on crap-websites which you have not legal ways to challenge
>> or that is too much time and money consuming) you can still make that
>> content "disappear", by making it move to the second, third or later
>> page of the search results. To do so, you have to "improve" the hits
>> (potentially using one of the pay-services such as reputation.com) in
>> a very simple way: flood the internet with "good" content matching the
>> search query you want to hide. For example if the search is about your
>> name, you want to have many positive pages having your name. Of course
>> all the SEO techniques apply so you don't just flood the internet with
>> copy-paste copies of your resume, but you have to have "nice" content,
>> linked by other high-ranking pages (possibly newspapers), and the
>> likes.
>>
>> Good luck.
>> Davide
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > It's a bit off color, but a friend of mine once said, "Putting things on
>> > the
>> > Internet is like pissing into the ocean. Once it's out there, there's no
>> > getting it back.". Not sure if it's something he came up with or
>> > appropriated, but in any case, I thought it was apt.
>> >
>> > Q
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Zan Lynx <zlynx at acm.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Change your name and move to a different location.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Andrew Louder <ajlouder at yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hello All,
>> >> >
>> >> >    Does anybody know much about how to De-index a web searches to
>> >> > remove
>> >> > unfavorable reviews from google/bing...?
>> >> >
>> >> >    Can anybody recommend a diy page?  Or recommend pay service?
>> >> >
>> >> > Andy
>> >> >
>> >> >
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