From DLWillson at TheGeek.NU Mon Mar 30 19:43:20 2015 From: DLWillson at TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:43:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [lug] Fwd: [SFS] Ansible *this* Saturday! (SFFS) In-Reply-To: <1428861200.10079.1427743960100.JavaMail.zimbra@sofree.us> Message-ID: <22060881.257263.1427766200072.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Now and then, I cross-post SFS events, if I think they're particularly Linuxy, or otherwise interesting to you. I hope you don't mind. If you do, just let me know, and I'll stop. That said, Chris Fedde is doing a gentle, hands-on intro to Ansible for SFS at denhac this Saturday. If that sounds interesting, read on... --- I hope lots of you'll join us at denhac this Saturday for Software Freedom First Saturday. We'll have a gentle, hands-on introduction to Ansible, starting at about 11AM and running to about 3PM. Our teacher is the insightful veteran Chris Fedde, father of the brilliant Duncan Fedde. For more information about the session, or to RSVP, go here http://www.sofree.us/?p=174067 or here: http://www.meetup.com/denhac-hackerspace/events/221514875 Please, do RSVP if you're coming, it helps Heather know how many muffins to make. If you're not interested in Ansible, but you want to jaw about Free Software or Free Software Music Servers or whatever, c'mon out anyway, a little before or after the session, and we'll jaw. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. From blug at jbaer.cotse.net Wed Apr 1 20:14:47 2015 From: blug at jbaer.cotse.net (Jed S. Baer) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 20:14:47 -0600 Subject: [lug] Building from Source on Debian Message-ID: Hi Folks. Okay, I'm being a little lazy here - I can do some web research and find all this out. Well, maybe there are some tips/hints/kinks, and highly recommended web guides someone could point me at. Problem is, I made what turned out to be an ill-fated decision to go with Mint/Debian, thinking that a rolling-release distro would be a good thing. Well, apart from the fact that they aren't doing updates, I'm discovering various other problems. Don't need to go into details, just that I'm finding things I need to have be different. Current issue is that Audacity is compiled without ffmpeg support. Bleh. So, until I decide what other distro to switch to, I'm going to take the plunge and run a Frankenstein system with things built from source. I used to do this, waaaay waaaay back, in RH and/or Fedora. For example, I was building Gnome from nightly CVS. I know I'll need -dev versions of all the libraries, build environment, etc. I'm thinking I should be able to get the -src packages, cd to where they unpack, and use the usual make incantations. Probably should --prefix to /usr/local so I don't create any odd conflicts, though I also think that as long as I'm pulling from the repositories for my distro, I shouldn't have any trouble with putting things where they'd end up installing from binary packages. Will there be any advantage to going the extra mile to make my own .deb packages? I know that should I ever want to remove the software, that'll make it easier. But I don't see that as something I'll be wanting to do, since the packages I want to build are things I use frequently. TIA jed From josephjamesmills at gmail.com Wed Apr 1 21:42:30 2015 From: josephjamesmills at gmail.com (Joseph Mills) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:42:30 -0600 Subject: [lug] Building from Source on Debian In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey there Jed, I can not tell you what is right and what is wrong to do with debian but this is what I do, *Debian Style* I have a daily builder that uses wannabuild , buildd , reprepro and various other things. (I highly suggest in LXC with portforwarding for apache) https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWannaBuildInfrastructure I only use my own repo and my own packages for packages that are in the debian's repo's. If I have some application that is installed on my machine and it is missing some functionality and I can fix it. I try to fix it and push it back upstream. to debian mentors https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentors Now if they reject my package for some reason and I use it then most the time I make diff patch's and then use them to fix things and or add the package to my repo with a high number (which is never a good idea) For applications that are are not in main contrib or non-free that I do not want to give away or can not, Then they go into the local repo. *Ubuntu* As I am sure that you know that Ubuntu uses launchpad to build all there packages. I have played with making my own repo's on there servers and using dput to do the trick. I have also tried to install LaunchPad a couple of times built could never get it to work fully https://dev.launchpad.net/Running https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally https://dev.launchpad.net/Code/HowToUseCodehostingLocally Though launchpad is great to use and some great software it is kinda tricky in my experiences. Note that not all debian packages are make there are a lot of other things , cmake ninja , qmake ect, some other links that are great for making debian packages https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/debian-packaging.html https://www.debian-administration.org/article/336/Rolling_your_own_Debian_packages_part_1 https://www.debian-administration.org/article/337/Rolling_your_own_Debian_packages_part_2 http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ I know I'll need -dev versions of all the libraries, build environment, > etc. > I use build-deps apt-get build-deps or look at the d/control file So is it worth the time to do any of this ? for me it depends on what it is for. Joseph Mills On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Jed S. Baer wrote: > Hi Folks. > > Okay, I'm being a little lazy here - I can do some web research and find > all this out. Well, maybe there are some tips/hints/kinks, and highly > recommended web guides someone could point me at. > > Problem is, I made what turned out to be an ill-fated decision to go with > Mint/Debian, thinking that a rolling-release distro would be a good > thing. Well, apart from the fact that they aren't doing updates, I'm > discovering various other problems. Don't need to go into details, just > that I'm finding things I need to have be different. > > Current issue is that Audacity is compiled without ffmpeg support. Bleh. > > So, until I decide what other distro to switch to, I'm going to take the > plunge and run a Frankenstein system with things built from source. I > used to do this, waaaay waaaay back, in RH and/or Fedora. For example, I > was building Gnome from nightly CVS. > > I know I'll need -dev versions of all the libraries, build environment, > etc. > > I'm thinking I should be able to get the -src packages, cd to where they > unpack, and use the usual make incantations. Probably should --prefix > to /usr/local so I don't create any odd conflicts, though I also think > that as long as I'm pulling from the repositories for my distro, I > shouldn't have any trouble with putting things where they'd end up > installing from binary packages. > > Will there be any advantage to going the extra mile to make my own .deb > packages? I know that should I ever want to remove the software, that'll > make it easier. But I don't see that as something I'll be wanting to do, > since the packages I want to build are things I use frequently. > > TIA > jed > _______________________________________________ > Web Page: http://lug.boulder.co.us > Mailing List: http://lists.lug.boulder.co.us/mailman/listinfo/lug > Join us on IRC: irc.hackingsociety.org port=6667 channel=#hackingsociety > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blug at jbaer.cotse.net Wed Apr 1 21:57:32 2015 From: blug at jbaer.cotse.net (Jed S. Baer) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:57:32 -0600 Subject: [lug] Building from Source on Debian In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:42:30 -0600 Joseph Mills wrote: > Hey there Jed, > > I can not tell you what is right and what is wrong to do with debian but > this is what I do, > I use build-deps > > apt-get build-deps > > or look at the d/control file > > > > So is it worth the time to do any of this ? > > for me it depends on what it is for. Hi Joseph. Thanks for the links - I will take a look I hope this weekend. In my case, it's just for functionality not compiled into the supplied binaries. I just happened to run across the build-deps, which I wasn't previously aware of -- very nice. Problem right now, as I've been looking at getting stuff prepared, is that Mint/Debian doesn't maintain -src repositories. So, I will have to add, I think, Debian Testing, as that's what Mint/Debian is based on, but I suspect there are newer versions there. Well, maybe stable. Not sure how that will play with the rest of my system, but if I keep things in /usr/local, that will avoid conflicts, I think. Or, I could build static - disk space is cheap and plentiful. Nice guide, at least for my 1st task: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/CompilingAudacityForBeginners Would rather I had time to fiddle with switching to something else, but that's another topic for another time. jed From robert.racansky at gmail.com Thu Apr 2 10:36:22 2015 From: robert.racansky at gmail.com (Robert Racansky) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 10:36:22 -0600 Subject: [lug] FREE: Toshiba 4200 laptops Message-ID: I have 3 Toshiba laptops: Toshiba Satellite Pro 4200 Series Model No. PS428U-0Q151 but only two power cords. If I find the 3rd, I'll include it. Otherwise, they're $10 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/S300-EZ1511-S300-EZ1512-S300-EZ1513-S300-EZ2501-S300-EZ2521/dp/B00744UBF4 One of them still has Windows 2000 installed on it! Other two don't have an OS -- I'm installing tahrpup (Puppy Linux) on one right now. Free to whoever wants them. Take one, take two, or better yet, take all three. I'm located in Boulder, and am usually at the BLUG meetings.