[lug] Thoughts on upgrading to CentOS 7

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com
Tue Mar 27 23:39:33 MDT 2018


On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:12:05 -0600
Rob Nagler <nagler at bivio.biz> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > An alternative would be to see this as an opportunity to explore
> > other distros. Plenty of distros have decided not to require their
> > users to move to the controversial systemd.
> >  
> 
> A very reasonable suggestion. With 20-20 hindsight, I might have not
> walked down this path. There isn't one thing that's been too
> complicated to code around, it's the fact that there are so many of
> them.
> 
> init systems like runit or s6. This is *not* true of systemd, which
> > contains several "poison pills" making it extremely difficult to
> > replace.  
> 
> 
> What are the poison pills?

Too numerous to describe, and most I never troubleshot down to the
bitter end root cause.
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/init/manjaro_experiments.htm
describes my attempts to put alternate inits like runit and Epoch on
various systems. Invariably it was straightforward to replace sysvinit
with runit or Epoch. Invariably, there was hoop after hoop to jump
through trying to do the same thing on a systemd machine. And this was
in late 2014, before a lot of the poison pills existed.

SteveT

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