[lug] Gnome hidden panel

[David Lewis]

    Lost my focus. I was originally writing about my panel being hidden in
gnome. Then gnome went away and it wouldn't start when I did startx. I think
the problem is still there, I still can't get to gnome. When .Xclient runs,
it says the windows is already active and it doesn't start gnome. I still
need to get into gnome and get the panel back so I can finish adding my
printer, adding netscape, setting up a swap partition, and more using Linux.
Thanks for the help, but we have to get back to the original problem.

David dbl at db-enterprises.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel


> David Lewis wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
> > To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 10:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel
> >
> > > David Lewis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "D. Stimits" <stimits at idcomm.com>
> > > > To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [lug] Gnome hidden panel
> > > >
> > > > > > David Lewis wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am a newbie to your user group. I had a question and got hold
of
> > > > > > your group through the Computer Edge. I installed rehat 7.0 and
win
> > > > > > me  on my 586 pc. Whole working in linux I hid the panel in
Gnome
> > and
> > > > > > don't know how to make it visible again. Can anyone help me??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > David B Lewis
> > > > > > dbl at db-enterprises.com
> > > > > > http://www.db-enterprises.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the same panel you are talking about can be reached with a
> > right
> > > > > click on the desktop, and choose "Configure Background Image". If
this
> > > > > isn't the one, post here again.
> > > > >
> > > > > D. Stimits, stimits at idcomm.com
> > > > >
> > > > I tried startx it use to bring up Gnome with no panel. this time
the
> > msgs
> > > > were
> > > >   .Xclients: exec:
> > > > no such file or directory
> > > > waiting for Xserver to shutdown
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure why startx did not start Gnome this time. I have been
> > doing
> > > > redhat linux 7 getting started guide
> > > > Chapters 16 and 17.
> > > >
> > > > David <dbl at db-enterprises.com>
> > > >
> > >
> > > There should be a file for RH 7 "Xclients" at /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients;
> > > if it finds that, it should be enough. Generally the .Xclients would
be
> > > a per-user file placed in the home directory, and overriding the
> > > system-wide Xclients. Though I notice there are also versions roughly
> > > per window manager in /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/, e.g.,
Xclients.gnome.
> > > Do you have the Xclients.gnome (and maybe Xclients.toplevel) there?
> > > Also, it would find one missing if it didn't have permission to read
it.
> > > If you are running startx other than root, use that non-root user and
cd
> > > to /etc/X11/xinit/, see if you can "cat Xclients"; same for
> > > /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.gnome and Xclients.toplevel.
> > >
> > > FYI, there are a lot of configuration programs that simply overwrite
> > > config files. Especially upon installation of new software. The
> > > /etc/X11/XF86Config file is notorious for getting its font path and
some
> > > other parameters replaced while changing something entirely different.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >  I checked all the files mentioned. I found all files except
> > .Xclients-default that is why startx isn't working. Can I put it back?
> >
> > David
>
> My system (RH 6.2) doesn't have the .Xclients-default. It does have
> /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients, which I believe is run at startup of X11, and
> is something like a system-wide default. In the case of virtually every
> settings file related to X11, there is a copy that runs for startup, and
> possibly a copy for default use after up, that users would refer to,
> unless they have their own copy in home. "Typical" is for it to check
> the most personal/local to home version first, then work its way out
> towards the more general version if the personal version is not found.
> Thus it seldom hurts to place copies of such an init file in various
> directories that might be searched, possibly with different
> modifications. A sym link is often a good way to go if you want these to
> all be the same and you want to edit just one. An exception to all this
> is that sometimes there are "security" related files of which the values
> cannot be overridden by individual versions. In the case of X init
> files, I don't know which would be exceptions or not; in any case, you
> could always place a copy there and test it out without fear. Be sure
> that the files have permission to be read by whatever users, and can't
> be written by non-root if they are not owned by the particular user.
> During testing you might want to just make all init files readable by
> all (of the Xclients files), but don't forget where they were set before
> you started.
>
> You might also want to get the source to your X install, unpack it
> somewhere temporary, and see what its Xclients files look like. Better
> have some hard drive room though.
>
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