[lug] GUI support, can I help you?

[Elyse Grasso]

RedHat is even being annoying about the GUI tools: I tend to use linuxconf 
because that's what a lot of books about RedHat 7.0 and earlier talk about. 
Apparently, as of 7.1 RedHat is deprecating linuxconf, but it isn't clear 
what they expect people to use instead.

This may be because I prefer to use KDE rather than GNOME. But when I loaded 
KRUD on my employer's training lab laptops I had to go back and load 
linuxconf onto all of them...

On Friday 26 October 2001 11:20 am, Harris, James wrote:
> You know... I think that is going to happen with any OS, no matter what.  I
> still piss off my co-workers when I pull up a DOS prompt and starting
> hacking at my Windows 2000 box.  But hey, that's just how it is... You know
> what you know.
> 
> This however, leads me to bring up a grudge that I've been developing
> recently with RedHat.  Add the tools... Some of them really are quite nice
> and save some time.  However, PLEASE, PLEASE don't get rid of the tools that
> a package was built with.  My grudges go towards snmpconf being gone and
> apachectl being gone.  These ARE the tools that the developer provided for
> those of us who want to be old fashioned.  Don't create an interface and the
> assume that no one will want to use the original tool.
> 
> My two cents...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Duehr [mailto:nate at natetech.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:26
> To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> Subject: [lug] GUI support, can I help you?
> 
> 
> In relation to this topic...
> 
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 01:36:02AM -0500, John Karns wrote:
> > I don't think that our views are that much different, but I *would* 
> > argue that the GUI is a defacto necessity for ease of use today in a 
> > mass market.  That's not to say that this would apply wrt to techie / 
> > power users.  We have a choice as to whether we wish to use it or not.
> 
> Has anyone noticed that when trying to walk a newbie through recent versions
> of Linux that if you're used to popping open vi and editing all the config
> files, your poor friend who wants help thinks you're an utter goof for
> recommending it and can't figure out why you don't use that pretty GUI
> configuration tool (whatever it may be) that they have right there on their
> desktop to help them out? 
> 
> Heh... my how the tables turn.
> 
> I know JACK about some of these GUI tools, like the little firewall
> configuration tool in RH Linux variants, etc.  I just didn't learn it that
> way!  ;-)
> 
> -- 
> Nate Duehr <nate at natetech.com>
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