[lug] Weird DNS problems

Chip Atkinson catkinson at circadence.com
Fri Nov 9 11:23:39 MST 2001


That's really weird.  I'm going through tummy.com as my registrar and 
there is no provision that I can see for changing that IP address. I'll 
ask Sean and see what he says.

Hugh Brown wrote:

> I looked a little further, whois.crsnic.net (default on my box) lists the
> old ip address, whois.opensrs.net which belongs to your registrar doesn't
> mention the ip address
> 
> 
> Hugh
> 
> "Chip Atkinson"
> 
>> Jeez.  I don't know how many times I over looked that.  I'll make the 
>> changes there.  Thanks for the guidance.  Hopefully that will get things 
>> fixed up a bit.
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> Hugh Brown wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> whois returns that pupman is registered with the old ip address.  It looks
>>> you need to go to your registrar and get them to update the record.
>>> 
>>> Hugh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Chip Atkinson"
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I believe that jymis.com has the authoritative domain records.  That 
>>>> what dig seems to indicate:
>>>> 
>>>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>>>> pupman.com.             16h25m42s IN NS  ns1.jymis.com.
>>>> pupman.com.             16h25m42s IN NS  ns0.jymis.com.
>>>> 
>>>> AAARGHHH!!! Ok, I think this is the problem:
>>>> 
>>>>  > server G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
>>>> Default Server:  G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
>>>> Address:  192.42.93.30
>>>> 
>>>>  > pupman.com
>>>> Server:  G.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
>>>> Address:  192.42.93.30
>>>> 
>>>> Non-authoritative answer:
>>>> Name:    pupman.com
>>>> Address:  199.45.150.249
>>>> 
>>>> (The 199.45... address is old and out of date)  It should be 63.173.117.115.
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, how did you resolve the problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>>> 
>>>> Chip
>>>> 
>>>> Hugh Brown wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A couple of thoughts.  Who is authoritative for your domain?  If it is the
>>>>> qwest servers, do you know for sure that they updated the tables on the
>>>>> bogus server?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have had the problem with DNS if the root name servers have one ip and
>>>>> the authoritative dns server for the domain have different ip's then things
>>>>> go a little screwy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hugh
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Chip Atkinson"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm having some domain lookup problems that I can't seem to figure out 
>>>>>> and was hoping that someone could help me or at least point me in the 
>>>>>> right direction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here's the original problem:
>>>>>> Mail from a mailing list that I run was producing an error when sent to 
>>>>>> a subscriber at qwest.net.  It is "stat=Data format error" and "DSN: 
>>>>>> Data format error".  A little search on the web indicated it might be a 
>>>>>> DNS problem. (Yes, it is DSN in the error).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I go to the name servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf and try to do a 
>>>>>> forward and reverse lookup of my domain, pupman.com.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
>>>>>> search pupman.com
>>>>>> nameserver 206.196.128.1
>>>>>> nameserver 204.147.80.5
>>>>>> (both are Qwest's name server as I send the mail out through a DSL 
>>>>>> connection via them.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Forward lookups of pupman.com work on the 206 server works, but the 204 
>>>>>> server has an old IP from around August.  Reverse lookups don't seem to 
>>>>>> work at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone know what's going on?  I thought that name servers got the 
>>>>>> information from the name server listed in the whois record.  This 
>>>>>> doesn't seem to be the case to me becaue it's been since Aug. when I 
>>>>>> used the old IP and one would think that the cache at Qwest's name 
>>>>>> servers would have expired.  Furthermore, if I set q=any and query the 
>>>>>> server giving the bogus results it seems to use the right name server 
>>>>>> from the whois records.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm stumped right now.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chip
>>>>> 
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