[lug] cable modem network topology
D. Stimits
stimits at idcomm.com
Sat Jul 20 13:39:45 MDT 2002
Jeff wrote:
> I have a very similar situation at home. I have anywhere from 2-4
> machines on my home lan using only 1 outside ip. Use ip masq'ing. Much
> easier and cheaper.
Anyone who ever plays a network based game where it is not a
direct/active set of port requests and responses will be instantly cut
off. Masquerade is simply not capable of being a full service connect, I
do not mind setting up bridging if it will do the job (and it looks like
it will, some of the recent emails have pointed out more current
information than what I had). Take my word for it when I say masq will
not do what I need it to do, that it will not work (it will work for 99%
of the time, but that 1% makes it worthless).
D. Stimits, stimits @ idcomm.com
>
> Jeff
>
> LittleViggy at alum.manhattan.edu wrote:
>
>>Why the need for Internet addys for each machine behind the firewall? Couldn't
>>you setup IP masq'ing, and just use one Internet IP?
>>
>>My setup (albeit DSL) is like this, on Windows (yuck!). I have one machine
>>that has the DSL card and an Ethernet card. It's running NAT32p (a Windows
>>program for doing IP masqing). From the two machines behind the router
>>machine, I can do anything I want (including VPN). The only thing I cannot do
>>is have people contact machines behind my router, which is not a problem for me.
>>
>>If you could get away with that, it's prolly less of a headache to setup. And,
>>it saves you $10 /mo... Best of all, the ISP really need not know that you've
>>done this!
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>Viggy
>>
>>D. Stimits wrote:
>>
>>>Within the last two weeks, my telephone line quality went permanently
>>>downhill. Not only is it between 25% and 33% slower, latency seems to
>>>have doubled. The phone company is not interested until it drops below
>>>14.4kbps. Within roughly the last week, cable modems became available
>>>for a good price (especially compared to DSL).
>>>
>>>What I want to do is use an old P166 as the firewall/router/gateway, but
>>>it is complicated by the need for 3 IP addresses, all of which are
>>>dhcp/non-static. Each dynamic address beyond the first costs $5 each,
>>>but that is fine for 3 computers that might run at the same time. The
>>>gateway/router/firewall does not need a routable IP as far as I am
>>>concerned. What I wanted was something like this:
>>>
>>>cable modem
>>> | (eth0)
>>> P166 firewall/gate/router
>>> | (eth1)
>>> 8 port switch
>>> |
>>> |- Machine 1
>>> |- Machine 2
>>> |- Machine 3
>>>
>>>But how to actually do this is a mystery, it seems as though the P166
>>>would need eth0 to respond to multiple dhcp IP's, and then transparently
>>>forward them to whichever machine booted up, while still allowing rules
>>>to stop things like port 137-139 from passing through. I have never set
>>>up a DHCP system, which seems easy if only one machine touches the cable
>>>modem, but becomes problematic if the P166 must simply pass through DHCP
>>> packets, then do the right firewalling for each machine. Can this be done?
>>>
>>>D. Stimits, stimits @
>>
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>>
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