[lug] OT: w3c validated FRAMESET/html

[D. Stimits]

It seems that the validator.w3.org, when looking at frameset/html 4.0 
loose/transitional DTD does not allow any notion of borders in FRAMESET, 
and it is not possible to make a borderless frameset and have it also 
validate. Individual frames have some control, but none of these are 
capable of causing the edges between frames to disappear. I want this 
because I have a seamless background pattern, and if I use a FRAMESET 
with frameborder="0", then it works perfectly (one can't see where one 
frame ends and another begins, except while scrolling a frame). I have 
found no CSS attributes that can be applied to this either...apparently 
html 4.0 transitional combined with frames means there *must* be a 
border area between frames, and that turning off a border in the actual 
frames means an ungly white empty line between frames. (all is via 
mozilla 1.0 rc3)

Can anyone tell me if there is a means to create frames that touch each 
other without any gaps between them, and still have it validate under 
html 4.0 transitional? Stylesheets under CSS2 would be ideal.

D. Stimits, stimits @ idcomm.com