Lab Books was Re: [lug] BLUG archive library?

[Nate Duehr]

And I've never met a serious network security worker that didn't carry
with them a REAL engineering notebook that had numbered pages... 

Notes made at 2AM on napkins or whatever other paper is handy typically
aren't admissable in court either... (GRIN).  

Notes made in a bound notebook with page numbers that can't be altered
easily, preferrably in blue ink, and multiple witnesses who'll testify
that the person ALWAYS uses the notebook per a printed company
procedure... and that they used it that night.  That's pretty good...

(I can't take credit for any of these ideas though... a friend who does
security work pointed them out to me...)

Nate 

On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 14:06, Evelyn Mitchell wrote:
> * On 2002-09-09 20:02 John E. Koontz <koontz at boulder.nist.gov> wrote:
> > At 01:29 PM 9/9/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> > I don't happen to see a general solution 
> > either, though the issue of producing certificated, timestamped material 
> > that might be admissible strikes me as an interesting one:  how to produce 
> > an admissible or potentially admissible electronic version of the lab book?
> 
> There are several projects for Electronic Lab books. They use the technique
> of signing a page cryptographically, and then having the witnesses sign the
> signed page with their key. That way, if the original author was to change
> the page, they'd have to collude with the witnesses. Some of the projects
> use an uninterested 3rd party to sign everything that happens along the
> way, reducing even the possiblity of collusion.
> 
> Search Google for "Electronic Lab Notebook" to find both commercial and
> Open Source projects.
> 
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