[lug] Rack for colo coop?

[Frank Whiteley]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Siegal" <jbs at quiotix.com>
To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:52
Subject: Re: [lug] Rack for colo coop?


> Rob Nagler wrote:
> > Sean Reifschneider writes:
> >
> >>It's for 100mbps or 1gbps of bandwidth, not just a port charge for the
> >>connection to them.  They don't really say exactly what their connection
> >>from Denver to Sacramento and Denver to Kansas City is.  They imply that
> >>it's 80gbps delivered over OC192s.
> >
> >
> > So they can only bring in $2.4M/month (80 x 30) before the pipe
> > overflows.
>
> You're assuming that every customer does in fact max out their pipe.
> Though it is true that prices like that will attract bandwidth-heavy
> users, it is still probably the case that many will use *far* less.
>
Which is why over-subscriptions are common.  In conversations about Cogent,
others have indicated to me that 2% packet loss is pretty common and
unacceptable and given as the primary reason for not using Cogent for a main
pipe.  Price isn't everything.

I note one wireless ISP (www.pathbroadband.com) that has moved from Cogent
to Level3 recently.  Don't know if performance or financials were factors.

Frank Whiteley