[lug] discussion/change of topic: new startup tools

[Zan Lynx]

Nate Duehr wrote:
>> The author(s) of upstart are doing a re-write right now. It turns out
>> that the way they were doing their model didn't work at all for some
>> use cases, so they went back and did a redesign and are doing a
>> re-write. Once thats done, I expect both Fedora and Ubuntu will start
>> moving scripts to native upstart. 
> 
> So... big picture-wise here... 
> 
> Sun seems to have started this trend with creating a new way to start up
> Unix systems in Solaris 10, and then the Linuxes copy-catted it but made
> it completely different (as usual)... 
> 
> What I've been trying to figure out for a while was... what REAL
> benefits does any of this have over having just about everything on
> SysV?  

I never liked SysV myself.  I think we should have all stayed with 
straight init and inittab.  These unnecessarily complicated and slow 
SysV scripts never seemed to have much of an advantage.

It isn't just Solaris.  I believe OS X actually started the trend with 
launchd.
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