[lug] gnome shell, unity and going back

[Davide Del Vento]

Thanks all.
I tried XFCE for 10 days and it is much better than Unity, Gnome3 and
Gnome3 fall-back. And much better than it was last time I tried it
(don't remember when, but more than 4 years ago for sure), However
it's subpar compared to gnome2.
I will probably try KDE for 10 days too. I briefly tested the other
mentioned options too, but didn't like them much (at least not at
first sight). Sigh.

> Wouldn't it be funny if the old version (of KDE or GNOME)
> managed to attract more users than the
> new ones for a time?

It would, and I believe most (if not all) of us are in that category.
Since this is the year of the linux desktop (again :-) and the average
user is not a geek anymore but an luser, these dumbed-down interfaces
are succeeding.

Seriously, what do you think would be the critical mass to maintain
security updates and bug fixes for gnome2? And i guess to maintain
also some regression tests for the major distro, since I believe they
have already made their choices to proceed further with the newer
releases? Interesting to see that for KDE, trinitydesktop is doing
right that! I will try trinity too :-)

Happy Thanksgiving.
Davide

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 20:18, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Michael J. Hammel
> <mjhammel at graphics-muse.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 12:19 -0700, Davide Del Vento wrote:
>>> Did anybody moved to KDE? With what success? What about switching
>>> XFCE? I'm considering this my only option, at this point.
>>
>> I've been with GNOME since it got "useful" but periodically bounced over
>> to XFCE when they introduced some feature that annoyed me.  But that
>> hasn't been in some time.
>
> Yes and yes. See comments below.
>
>>
>> Then I upgraded a laptop at work to F15.  Ugh.  I immediately made XFCE
>> my default.  GNOME 3 is pretty.  GNOME 3 is new and shiny.  GNOME 3
>> completely breaks my long trusted and well structured desktop workflow.
>
>> from across the room.
>>
>> XFCE is very stable and keeps most of my workflow in place.
>>
>> I have a bunch of systems on F14 (and a major server at work at F12)
>> that are gonna go to F15 or F16 very soon.  I guess I'll find out how
>> much XFCE keeps me happy when I do that cuz GNOME is out.  Period.
>>
>
> looking for :-)
>>
>> Not only do I dislike Unity, I don't use Ubuntu (unless work *REQUIRES*
>> it, which I try to avoid if possible).
>>
>> But I'm getting old.  I grew up with setting my desktop by choosing
>> which apps to put in my .xinitrc.  Now it feels like the children are
>> running the asylum.
>>
>
> I can't give any recommendations for Gnome 3, but I've avoided Gnome
> like the plague over the years. I've run nearly all the major distros
> at one time or another using xfce or kde. Both have met the test of
> time for my needs.
>
> When I made my last major switch, I was looking for a usable version
> of kde 4. The initial versions were not to my liking. Then I came
> across PCLinuxOS and found exactly what I was looking for (ca. 2 years
> ago). pclos has just the right mix. It is a continuous upgrade distro
> (install once, upgrade forever). It is available in Gnome, KDE, XFCE,
> and LXDE flavors. I'm running kde on my desktop PC, LXDE on my
> netbook, and life is good. If you really want Gnome, you could try
> their Gnome flavor to see if it is as well rounded as the KDE variant.
>
> My only gripe is the fact that pclos clings to ruby 1.8 whereas 1.9
> has been out for ages and the ruby developers are discouraging use of
> 1.8. pclos has gone so far as to make it difficult to remove 1.8 from
> the system!!!
>
> Enjoy,
>
> --
> Collins Richey
>      If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries
>      of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.
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