[lug] iPod/mp3 players.

[David L. Anselmi]

Can anyone recommend something similar to an iPod that is more Linux friendly or less proprietary? 
I guess I mean something that includes a full size screen (like the iPod Touch) with a camera.  I 
don't know whether I care about movie playback and such.

Besides the premium you pay to have an *Apple* product I saw an older iPod recently that wouldn't 
give up its pictures without heroic measures.  Uggh.  So I'd like something high quality, durable, 
that can be managed without iTunes-like service and with standard Linux tools.

Bonus if it can play Ogg. :-)

Thanks!
Dave