[lug] speaking of wordpress : hosting recs

karl horlen horlenkarl at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 3 18:00:33 MDT 2013 

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> From: Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
>To: karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com> 
>Cc: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List <lug at lug.boulder.co.us> 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 5:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [lug] speaking of wordpress : hosting recs
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>Sure thing, glad to be a help.
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>Sadly, the deal I got was literally a "the colo owner owes me a favor" deal.
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>QH
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>On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM, karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>awesome.  thanks.
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>>also, if you feel like sharing that colo information assuming it would be available to a non-friend, ping me back, privately or otherwise.  
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>>> From: Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
>>>To: karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com> 
>>>Cc: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List <lug at lug.boulder.co.us> 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 4:53 PM
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>>>Subject: Re: [lug] speaking of wordpress : hosting recs
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>>>1 - I don't know about their outbound stuff beyond what's listed there. When I worked with a site that was hosted with them ~7 years ago that blew up bandwidth-wise they dropped us an email that basically said, "woah man, what's going on with your site? If this is going to be normal we need to talk." It was all very cordial, and the site owner came to a reasonable agreement with them. Not sure what the current state of affairs would be.
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>>>2 - I stopped hosting my sites w/ Dreamhost a couple years ago when I lucked into a friends & family rate at a colo (1U, no power reqs, and "don't be a jerk" bandwidth limits for $40 a month? yes please.) and setup my own box. I only host DNS with them now. That said, at the time I used them last, if you go with their basic hosting all the typical admin tasks you mention can be done via their control panel. It was all pretty slick. I had no downtime problems with them at all, and would still be using them if hadn't gotten my colo deal setup. More info on them: http://www.dreamhost.com/partners/wordpress/
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>>>On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:42 PM, karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>thanks quentin. you may have just saved me some pain right there.  i gave the fee-based upgrades a quick perusal.  they do add up quite quickly but since they're annual costs, it actually might be a relatively good deal since it appears there is no base monthly fee.  
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>>>>1) do you know if indeed there is no base outbound bandwidth limit for sites hosted with wordpress.com?  not that this would be an issue for the site in question but on the basic services page it does say "free".
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>>>>2) i'll poach your other post here for the dreamhost recommendation.  since you are currently using this service: how is wordpress configured / admin'd at dreamhost.  do you download and manually install it from a control panel or do you have cli access to the shell and a home directory?   are updates
 manual via the cli or control panel app?  what about backups?  are there stingy basic  bandwidth limits?  and what level of service are you getting for a basic price point (or one that you're currently signed up for)?
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>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> From: Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
>>>>>To: karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com>; Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List <lug at lug.boulder.co.us> 
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 4:28 PM
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>>>>>Subject: Re: [lug] speaking of wordpress : hosting recs
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>>>>>The only downsides I've seen with using Wordpress.com for hosting is that at the free level your control over themes and plugins and whatnot. If your needs fit inside the box they've defined, it's a great solution. If not, it get expensive fast. Not expensive, but just FYI, using your own domain costs $13 / year. Blogger will let you do your own domain for free.
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>>>>>Here's the list of pay-for Wordpress.com upgrades:
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>>>>>http://en.support.wordpress.com/upgrades/
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>>>>>On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:18 PM, karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>yeah .. wtf is a happiness engineer ;)   the fact that you have a happiness engineer presumes that people are unhappy to start with ;)
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>>>>>>thaks for the info.  the fact that this service is "hidden" kind of bugs me though.  i'm not "happy" when companies hide the happiness.  you're well on your way to becoming a happiness engineer it seems  ;)
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>>>>>>> From: Jed S. Baer <blug at jbaer.cotse.net>
>>>>>>>To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us 
>>>>>>>Cc: karl horlen <horlenkarl at yahoo.com>; Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List <lug at lug.boulder.co.us> 
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 4:13 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [lug] speaking of wordpress : hosting recs
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>>>>>>>On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:48:16 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>>karl horlen wrote:
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>>>>>>>> 4) i believe wordpress org or com itself might handle hosting of the
>>>>>>>> type i'm talking about and it might even be free  which might just
>>>>>>>> simply nip this thing in the bud.  but if i go that route (or something
>>>>>>>> like blogger.com.. which i'm not sure is wordpress but some google cms
>>>>>>>> platform), can i seamlessly point my domain via dns to my
 site on these
>>>>>>>> services so that it looks like a stand alone domain / webiste and not
>>>>>>>> like a jackass child of the service with the parent domain name
>>>>>>>> embedded in the url?
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>>>>>>>Google bought Blogger from Pyra labs quite a while ago. It isn't
>>>>>>>WordPress.
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>>>>>>>You'd think they'd mention it at http://en.wordpress.com/features/ -- but
>>>>>>>the implication is that yes, you can point your domain there:
>>>>>>>"TIME, CNN, TED, Boing Boing, and TechCrunch are all hosted on
>>>>>>>WordPress.com."
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>>>>>>>But you'll have to dig for it. Maybe it's a non-free extra.
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>>>>>>>Shouldn't be hard to discover: "Whether you’re searching the forums,
>>>>>>>reading our support pages, or chatting with a Happiness Engineer, you can
>>>>>>>always find a helping hand."
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>>>>>>>Happiness Engineer? That right there is enough to keep me away. :-P
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