[lug] Fedora 25 wayland

[Michael J. Hammel]

On Tue, 2016-08-23 at 11:22 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> All other desktops will be unaffected and you will still have X
> there. 

Excellent.  That's what I needed to know.  I run XFce on my desktops.
 
> > There's a vast pile of advantages for wayland, and you can still use
> X
> just fine, so no one is "forcing" anything on you here. 

Likely true, but I heard that about systemd, so I'm a bit skiddish
about architectural changes in my distros.

> It's pretty old now (about 3 years or so) but this is a pretty good
> laundy list of why a bunch of X developers went and made wayland: 
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situatio
> n

Yeah, I've heard these before.  X is old and it's code base is
problematic.  Very true.  Fonts are a problem too.  But the rest of the
arguments for a new architecture (and not just a rewrite) are not
compelling to me.  I prefer mechanism over policy and the arguments
against have not convinced me to change yet.  One of the other
arguments in the phoronix article seemed to focus on the screensaver. 
 Odd. Screensavers are far less meaningful with modern monitors.  I
never use them.  Most of the rest of the arguments seem to favor a
rewrite instead of a new architecture.

Anyway, I still see the primary reasons as deriving from "I want to
play more games".  So I'm not convinced it's a benefit to me.  I'm
willing to keep an open mind to new architectures.  But I reserve the
right to be a crotchety old guy until then.  :-)
-- 
Michael J. Hammel <mjhammel at graphics-muse.org>