[lug] First Programming Language

[Quentin Hartman]

It doesn't really matter. They all can do conceptually the same stuff. She
should use whichever one feels the most comfortable to her. Any of the
suggestions for high level languages above would work technically.
Whichever one she's most easily able to sit down with and be productive
will be the best choice.

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Jed S. Baer <blug at jbaer.cotse.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:57:48 -0700
> Michael J. Hammel wrote:
>
> > Python has apparently raised a generation of really bad programmers who
> > write unmaintainable code. It's structure is less like many other more
> > useful languages than Javascript and nodejs can show her what real
> > object orientation looks like.
>
> Oh, come now. Laying poor programming knowledge at the feet of Python,
> vs. any other language? I'll bet that there is vastly more bad software,
> and bad programmers out there, from the hordes of people who jumped onto
> web development and "learned" JavaScript on the fly without a solid
> grounding in good practice, than there is such from Python. It's just as
> possible to be a bad programmer in OCaml or Haskell as it is to be a bad
> programmer in Fortran. We might as well point fingers at PHP as well.
>
> I wish I could find it now, but ESR wrote a piece highly complimentary of
> Python. Oh, the things I wish I had bookmarked, such as another thing I
> recall reading pointing out all the bad things about JavaScript as a
> language.
>
> I'm still in favor of building a solid foundation. That makes me think of
> C. Doing a web search for "beginner programming language", Python seems
> to be the popular choice. Or maybe Swift?
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