[lug] Fedora on a slab

Wed Feb 24 16:44:45 MST 2021

So... Yes, DIY is always an option, but this time, money will be spent, and...

There's this free-market capitalist notion that I just can't dispel from my mind: One should vote with one's money. That is, when a maker makes something that makes you happy, you should throw money at them. When they don't, you shouldn't. Whenever you spend your money, you are demonstrating approval, more weightily with your money than with your puffs of air or emails.

In short, I am careful to buy what I want, and not buy what I don't want, so that I don't accidentally dilute any signal I might be producing in the market.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Sullivan" <steve.sullivan at mathcom.com>
To: "BLUG" <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 3:05:54 PM
Subject: Re: [lug] Fedora on a slab

Why not install your own Fedora on top of whatever ships with
the laptop you like?  You'll have to do upgrades anyway as time goes
on.

If the laptop comes with some kind of linux, won't it support
nearly any linux?

Steve

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 02:46:48PM -0700, Davide Del Vento wrote:
> I see your point, and no I don't know about any seller, besides the usual
> tiny shops (resellers, not sellers). In fact, I was surprised to learn that
> Lenovo does!
> 
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 1:16 PM David L. Willson <dlwillson at thegeek.nu>
> wrote:
> 
> > No, I haven't. That seems like it would nullify the point of buying
> > pre-installed. Call me unimaginative, but I can't imagine that upgrading a
> > machine past Lenovo's max memory config would be a supported configuration.
> > The point of buying a machine with Fedora pre-installed is to get a machine
> > that has been thoroughly tested with, and is supported with, Fedora, so
> > that if something I care about doesn't work, I can ask the seller to make
> > it work. If I buy a machine they sell with 16 GiB and I install 32 GiB, and
> > it doesn't work, and I call them to make it work... Well, I guess they
> > probably won't be able or willing to help me with that.
> >
> > Do you happen to know any sellers that sell a Fedora machine with 32G of
> > memory?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"Davide Del Vento" <davide.del.vento at gmail.com>
> > *To: *"BLUG" <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:33:43 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [lug] Fedora on a slab
> >
> > Have you asked if they would sell it to you without memory or with the
> > lowest option available for you to upgrade it on your own?
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:28 AM David L. Willson <dlwillson at thegeek.nu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have verified with Lenovo twice in chat. They do not have an option
> >> that satisfies both requirements.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From: *"Davide Del Vento" <davide.del.vento at gmail.com>
> >> *To: *"BLUG" <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:37:21 AM
> >> *Subject: *Re: [lug] Fedora on a slab
> >>
> >> Do they make the hw you need just without Fedora on it or not? If so,
> >> contacting them might get you what you want.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:24 AM David L. Willson <dlwillson at thegeek.nu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I want your machine seller recommendations. I'm looking for a Fedora
> >>> laptop with 32GiB RAM.
> >>>
> >>> I got all excited when I heard that Lenovo would be making laptops with
> >>> Fedora, and even more excited when I saw that they *are* making laptops
> >>> with Fedora. But then, I went to buy one and found that the max memory is
> >>> 16 GiB. I can't work with that, anymore. My old System76 Oryx Pro 2 has
> >>> 32GiB, and I can't think of a good reason to buy a new laptop that is less
> >>> beefy than my old laptop, at least while my old laptop still works at all.
> >>>
> >>> So, my idea of perfect is exactly one click up from my current laptop.
> >>> If System76 shipped with Fedora or even a Fedora-based Pop, this would be
> >>> easy, but they don't, so it's not.
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