[lug] GUI support, can I help you?

Harris, James James_Harris at maxtor.com
Fri Oct 26 11:20:13 MDT 2001


You know... I think that is going to happen with any OS, no matter what.  I
still piss off my co-workers when I pull up a DOS prompt and starting
hacking at my Windows 2000 box.  But hey, that's just how it is... You know
what you know.

This however, leads me to bring up a grudge that I've been developing
recently with RedHat.  Add the tools... Some of them really are quite nice
and save some time.  However, PLEASE, PLEASE don't get rid of the tools that
a package was built with.  My grudges go towards snmpconf being gone and
apachectl being gone.  These ARE the tools that the developer provided for
those of us who want to be old fashioned.  Don't create an interface and the
assume that no one will want to use the original tool.

My two cents...

-----Original Message-----
From: Nate Duehr [mailto:nate at natetech.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:26
To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
Subject: [lug] GUI support, can I help you?


In relation to this topic...

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 01:36:02AM -0500, John Karns wrote:
> I don't think that our views are that much different, but I *would* 
> argue that the GUI is a defacto necessity for ease of use today in a 
> mass market.  That's not to say that this would apply wrt to techie / 
> power users.  We have a choice as to whether we wish to use it or not.

Has anyone noticed that when trying to walk a newbie through recent versions
of Linux that if you're used to popping open vi and editing all the config
files, your poor friend who wants help thinks you're an utter goof for
recommending it and can't figure out why you don't use that pretty GUI
configuration tool (whatever it may be) that they have right there on their
desktop to help them out? 

Heh... my how the tables turn.

I know JACK about some of these GUI tools, like the little firewall
configuration tool in RH Linux variants, etc.  I just didn't learn it that
way!  ;-)

-- 
Nate Duehr <nate at natetech.com>

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