[lug] colo at home info

[Sean Reifschneider]

On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:57:31AM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
>Hmm?  What's this about 95th percentile?  I'm pretty sure FRII is still 

We signed up with DSL through FRII shortly after DSL was offered -- in
that time they've changed their calculation of bandwidth charges quite a
few times.

>Their cap is 10GB/month for their lowest Qwest DSL option, and 
>20GB/month for most of their Qwest DSL offerings.  We'll use the higher 
>cap... now you can all laugh at my math skills here...

Ah, I see what they're saying now.  Yeah, 10 to 20GB/month is a fairly
reasonable quantity of data.  They seem to have upped it quite a lot
recently.  Nice.

>So you were right, I goofed the math before... but even at that, I've 
>never gone over the cap... even when downloading CD images, etc.  Or 
>maybe I have and they're just not watching very closely?  ;-)  I don't 
>know really... never bothered to set up MRTG here at the house.  Heh.

Yep, 20GB/month will give you quite a few CD downloads.  Unless you do
something like download a full copy of the Red Hat FTP site, like I did
once on the cable modem, you're going to be pretty safe at 20GB.  A full
Red Hat mirror is around 160GB right now.

>You were reading their bandwidth cap for stuff you put on their server. 

Yeah, but I was also using a much lower bandwidth rate as well -- the
256kbps.  I also was assuming only saturating inbound, with no outbound
traffic.  2.8 days is in the ball-park though.

>Yeah, agreed there.  I can't get it here in Centennial.  They're 
>supposedly coming... but I can't get two large blocks of static IP's 

Yeah, FRII's static IP policy has been quite reasonable.

>from them either... so I'll probably have to stay with DSL for now... 
>my VoIP junk here needs real addresses.

Comcast does give you a real address, it's just not static.  Our IP
address has only changed once in the 2 years we've had it, though.

>They have a 30GB/month hosted server option also with 500 MB disk space, 
>MySQL, the usual goodies at $79.95/month or $879.45/year.  I just 
>mention it because I just saw it... I think there are better hosting 
>deals out there...?  Never priced them... never used any of them.

Yeah, there are certainly better hosting deals out there I think.  For
example, we offer a "virutal dedicated" machine where you get root
access.  We have 3 different price-points: $25, $45, and $80, which
includes 5, 10, and 20GB of transfers and 1.5, 3, and 6GB of disc space.
Shared hosting where it's a bunch of users, each with a user login on a
shared box seems to be much less expensive, but I'm not really familiar
with what people are charging for it.

>New colocation and ethernet customers will receive monthly bandwidth at 
>$495 per meg on a 1 year contract or $395 per meg on contracts 2 years 
>or longer. Valid April 1 through September 30, 2003.

We decided not to offer colocation.  Instead, we offer dedicated hosted
boxes.  The difference being that we provide the hardware and
maintenance on it.  We always keep a complete, burned-in system
available, so that if any piece of hardware fails on one of our hosted
machines, we can have it back up very quickly.

We've found that works quite nicely, because it gives our clients one
less thing that they have to worry about.  Or more than one thing -- you
don't have to insure the extra hardware and location, install the
software, etc..  On top of that, it's fairly competitive at $150/month
for the whole thing.

Sean
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Sean Reifschneider, Member of Technical Staff <jafo at tummy.com>
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