[lug] OT: Colocation Providers

Mon Aug 17 17:03:02 MDT 2009

Ahh yep, that's them.  Never heard anything bad about them from any of
their customers. 

Sure looks like there's almost an "overabundance" of colocation space in
the Front Range after reading this e-mail chain, doesn't it?

Sounds like it comes down to price and customer service... go figure. 
Isn't that always what it comes down to?  :-)

--
  Nate Duehr
  nate at natetech.com

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:52 -0700, "Glenn Ashton" <gfa at idiom.com> wrote:
> I think that you are thinking of ViaWest.  They have multiple data 
> centers.
> 
> They are good folks, flood plane not withstanding.
> 
> -Glenn
> 
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Nate Duehr wrote:
> 
> > Ahh okay, my bad.  I think I'm thinking of that one down near the
> > Auraria Parkway exit off of I-25.  Not sure their name all of a sudden
> > for some reason.
> >
> > --
> >  Nate Duehr
> >  nate at natetech.com
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:08 -0600, "George Sexton"
> > <georges at mhsoftware.com> wrote:
> >> This is across the street from the Denver Coliseum.  I don't think it's
> >> in a
> >> flood plain.
> >>
> >> George Sexton
> >> MH Software, Inc.
> >> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> >> Voice: 303 438 9585
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: lug-bounces at lug.boulder.co.us [mailto:lug-
> >>> bounces at lug.boulder.co.us] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:58 PM
> >>> To: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [lug] OT: Colocation Providers
> >>>
> >>> Not to pick on them, but if that's the building I think it is... it's
> >>> also WAY below the 10-year Cherry Creek flood plane level...
> >>>
> >>> If you have off-site backups and good insurance... well, anyway... not
> >>> even sure it's the building I'm thinking of... but there are some down
> >>> there near Downtown Denver that are in REALLY bad locations, as it
> >>> relates to level above the river...
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>   Nate Duehr
> >>>   nate at natetech.com
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:35 -0600, "George Sexton"
> >>> <georges at mhsoftware.com> wrote:
> >>>> Sean,
> >>>>
> >>>> I looked at Fortrust. They're actually selling shared cabinet space.
> >>> 4U
> >>>> for
> >>>> $199 per month. I was really impressed with their facility. I was
> >>> going
> >>>> to
> >>>> sign with them, but then I balked at the contract. They have a clause
> >>>> that
> >>>> requires a rather large insurance policy, with an endorsement making
> >>> them
> >>>> a
> >>>> beneficiary, and along with that, you have to get the insurance
> >>> provider
> >>>> to
> >>>> provide some sort of legal waiver. It was just ridiculous to have
> >>> that
> >>>> kind
> >>>> of requirement for placing a 1U server.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also pointed out an error in their contract to their benefit and
> >>> they
> >>>> got
> >>>> kind of argumentative and said I didn't understand it. I came away
> >>> with
> >>>> the
> >>>> feeling that they weren't taking me seriously. My wife was a little
> >>>> freaked
> >>>> out by the location too. She pictures me going there at 1:00 AM on a
> >>>> Sunday
> >>>> morning and wigs out. They have the nice big fortress like fence and
> >>> gate
> >>>> in
> >>>> the front, but the customers come in through the side by the rail-
> >>> road
> >>>> tracks...
> >>>>
> >>>> Between those things I decided not to go there.
> >>>>
> >>>> George Sexton
> >>>> MH Software, Inc.
> >>>> http://www.mhsoftware.com/
> >>>> Voice: 303 438 9585
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: lug-bounces at lug.boulder.co.us [mailto:lug-
> >>>>> bounces at lug.boulder.co.us] On Behalf Of Sean Reifschneider
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:33 PM
> >>>>> To: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [lug] OT: Colocation Providers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 08/17/2009 01:38 PM, Michael J. Hammel wrote:
> >>>>>> Tummy.com runs my server.  They're based in Ft. Collins but I
> >>> think
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> data center is in Denver.  I think.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Michael.  However, I will note that we don't do co-location
> >>> --
> >>>>> only
> >>>>> managed hosting and virtual hosting.  We don't allow third-party
> >>> access
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> our site, which has its advantages and disadvantages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The advantages are that we provide the hardware, so you don't have
> >>> to
> >>>>> manage or keep spares, etc...  If it breaks at 3am on a Saturday
> >>>>> morning,
> >>>>> because we own the hardware we can go in and take care of it
> >>> without
> >>>>> bothering you.  But, if you really want to own the hardware, this
> >>> is a
> >>>>> disadvantage.  We also do monitoring of the system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To give you an idea, pricing is $150/month for a core 2 duo system
> >>> with
> >>>>> dual RAID-1 1TB drives and 2GB of RAM.  We also have virtual
> >>> systems
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> 512MB RAM and 40GB disc for $25/month.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The facility we're in doesn't do anything smaller than a whole
> >>> cabinet,
> >>>>> so it's probably not an option unless your budget is at least a
> >>> grand
> >>>>> a month.  It is indeed in Denver, near I-25 and I-70, and it's a
> >>> great
> >>>>> facility.  It's called Fortrust and if you're looking for a whole
> >>>>> cabinet
> >>>>> or more I'd highly recommend them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not that familiar with area colo providers, because I'm just
> >>> not in
> >>>>> that market, but I've heard good things about Netrack in Boulder,
> >>> and
> >>>>> they'll do single systems.   I believe Data393 will also do smaller
> >>>>> space
> >>>>> allocations, but they're located in the DTC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sean
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sean Reifschneider, Member of Technical Staff <jafo at tummy.com>
> >>>>> tummy.com, ltd. - Linux Consulting since 1995: Ask me about High
> >>>>> Availability
> >>>>
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