[lug] Building from Source on Debian

[Joseph Mills]

Hey there Jed,

I can not tell you what is right and what is wrong to do with debian but
this is what I do,

*Debian Style*

I have a daily builder that uses wannabuild , buildd , reprepro and various
other things.  (I highly suggest in LXC with portforwarding for apache)

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWannaBuildInfrastructure


I only use my own repo and my own packages for packages that are in the
debian's repo's.

If I have some application that is installed on my machine and it is
missing some functionality and I can fix it.  I try to fix it and push it
back upstream.  to debian mentors

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentors

Now if they reject my package for some reason and I use it then most the
time I make diff patch's  and then use them to fix things and or add the
package to my repo with a high number (which is never a good idea)

For applications that are are not in main contrib or non-free that I do not
want to give away or can not,  Then they go into the local repo.


*Ubuntu*
As I am sure that you know that Ubuntu uses launchpad to build all there
packages.  I have played with making my own repo's on there servers and
using dput to do the trick.  I have also tried to install  LaunchPad a
couple of times built could never get it to work fully

https://dev.launchpad.net/Running
https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC
https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally
https://dev.launchpad.net/Code/HowToUseCodehostingLocally

Though launchpad is great to use and some great software it is kinda tricky
in my experiences.


Note that not all debian packages are make there are a lot of other things
, cmake ninja , qmake ect,

some other links that are great for making debian packages

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/

http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/debian-packaging.html

https://www.debian-administration.org/article/336/Rolling_your_own_Debian_packages_part_1
https://www.debian-administration.org/article/337/Rolling_your_own_Debian_packages_part_2


http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/



I know I'll need -dev versions of all the libraries, build environment,
> etc.
>


I use build-deps

apt-get build-deps <packagename>

or look at the d/control file



So is it worth the time to do any of this ?

for me it depends on what it is for.


Joseph Mills




On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Jed S. Baer <blug at jbaer.cotse.net> wrote:

> Hi Folks.
>
> Okay, I'm being a little lazy here - I can do some web research and find
> all this out. Well, maybe there are some tips/hints/kinks, and highly
> recommended web guides someone could point me at.
>
> Problem is, I made what turned out to be an ill-fated decision to go with
> Mint/Debian, thinking that a rolling-release distro would be a good
> thing. Well, apart from the fact that they aren't doing updates, I'm
> discovering various other problems. Don't need to go into details, just
> that I'm finding things I need to have be different.
>
> Current issue is that Audacity is compiled without ffmpeg support. Bleh.
>
> So, until I decide what other distro to switch to, I'm going to take the
> plunge and run a Frankenstein system with things built from source. I
> used to do this, waaaay waaaay back, in RH and/or Fedora. For example, I
> was building Gnome from nightly CVS.
>
> I know I'll need -dev versions of all the libraries, build environment,
> etc.
>
> I'm thinking I should be able to get the -src packages, cd to where they
> unpack, and use the usual make incantations. Probably should --prefix
> to /usr/local so I don't create any odd conflicts, though I also think
> that as long as I'm pulling from the repositories for my distro, I
> shouldn't have any trouble with putting things where they'd end up
> installing from binary packages.
>
> Will there be any advantage to going the extra mile to make my own .deb
> packages? I know that should I ever want to remove the software, that'll
> make it easier. But I don't see that as something I'll be wanting to do,
> since the packages I want to build are things I use frequently.
>
> TIA
> jed
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