[lug] Big Brother taking over!

[Holshouser, David]

also, most commercial accounts that I've seen offer a specified number
of static IP addresses. Where is that? 
hmmm. I wonder what they think they are doing.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holshouser, David [mailto:dholshou at ball.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:00 AM
> To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> Subject: RE: [lug] Big Brother taking over!
> 
> 
> I'm confused on some of your statements.
> I've put my comments inline.
> 
> > >Don't most common EULAs say this same thing.
> > >I've been web hosting a domain for almost a year now on 
> two different
> > >services
> > >that had that in their aggreement and neither did anything 
> about it.
> > >(Esp. since I put in ipchains rules)
> > >
> > >Is yours a commercial website?
> > >Does their commercial agreement say that as well?
> > >What makes it commercial then?
> > 
> > I am pretty careful about reading contracts (including 
> > acceptable use/EULA 
> > agreements) before signing them. I prefer not to enter into 
> > an agreement 
> > that I know I'm going to breach, since that can have bad 
> side effects.
> 
> that was my point. If they have this in their commercial 
> account EULA, 
> then why is it considered a commercial account?
> 
> > 
> > It seems like the ability to serve web is often the 
> > difference between a 
> > 'residential' and a 'commercial' service (for which you pay 
> > extra bux)My 
> > experience with ISP's is that, if you pay for residential and 
> > then try to 
> > get them to do interesting things with domain names, they 
> > will either (a) 
> 
> don't bother, pay someone else to do the [dyn]dns service for you.
> problem with this is reverse lookup if you want to run mail or other
> app where people like to do reverse lookup on your name. 
> 
> you have a business to consider and I'm sure that would muck 
> things up. 
> For a private system like mine, it works great.
> 
> > figger out you're running a host or (b) require hours of 
> handholding 
> > through the DNS incantations. So it's worth my time to find 
> > an ISP that 
> > actually understands and appreciates what I'm doing here. All 
> > of my prior 
> > ISPs have had EULAs that did not prohibit web servers.
> > 
> > The web site is my company's 'alternate' web site 
> > www.cleansoft.net. I have 
> > my 'primary' web site (www.cleansoft.com) commercially hosted 
> > for better 
> > throughput and less downtime. But most hosts don't like to 
> > have you running 
> > a listserv on their machine (as I do on cleansoft.net, for 
> 
> what do you mean 'on their machine?'
> you still run everything on your machine, how does their machine
> come into the picture?
> 
> 
> > two community 
> > organizations) so I maintain cleansoft.net for that purpose 
> > and also as my 
> > playground for new technologies.
> 
> so, if cleansoft.net is not essential then it seems using an 
> external [dyn]dns service would work fine.
> 
> 
> > 
> > It is, by any definition, 'commercial' since its primary 
> > purpose is to 
> > advertise my company's products and services.
> > 
> > The quote was lifted from the Sprint 'commercial' agreement. 
> > I have not 
> > looked at their residential agreement.
> > 
> > -Mike
> > 
>  
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