[lug] Big Brother taking over!

[Holshouser, David]

I'm confused on some of your statements.
I've put my comments inline.

> >Don't most common EULAs say this same thing.
> >I've been web hosting a domain for almost a year now on two different
> >services
> >that had that in their aggreement and neither did anything about it.
> >(Esp. since I put in ipchains rules)
> >
> >Is yours a commercial website?
> >Does their commercial agreement say that as well?
> >What makes it commercial then?
> 
> I am pretty careful about reading contracts (including 
> acceptable use/EULA 
> agreements) before signing them. I prefer not to enter into 
> an agreement 
> that I know I'm going to breach, since that can have bad side effects.

that was my point. If they have this in their commercial account EULA, 
then why is it considered a commercial account?

> 
> It seems like the ability to serve web is often the 
> difference between a 
> 'residential' and a 'commercial' service (for which you pay 
> extra bux)My 
> experience with ISP's is that, if you pay for residential and 
> then try to 
> get them to do interesting things with domain names, they 
> will either (a) 

don't bother, pay someone else to do the [dyn]dns service for you.
problem with this is reverse lookup if you want to run mail or other
app where people like to do reverse lookup on your name. 

you have a business to consider and I'm sure that would muck things up. 
For a private system like mine, it works great.

> figger out you're running a host or (b) require hours of handholding 
> through the DNS incantations. So it's worth my time to find 
> an ISP that 
> actually understands and appreciates what I'm doing here. All 
> of my prior 
> ISPs have had EULAs that did not prohibit web servers.
> 
> The web site is my company's 'alternate' web site 
> www.cleansoft.net. I have 
> my 'primary' web site (www.cleansoft.com) commercially hosted 
> for better 
> throughput and less downtime. But most hosts don't like to 
> have you running 
> a listserv on their machine (as I do on cleansoft.net, for 

what do you mean 'on their machine?'
you still run everything on your machine, how does their machine
come into the picture?


> two community 
> organizations) so I maintain cleansoft.net for that purpose 
> and also as my 
> playground for new technologies.

so, if cleansoft.net is not essential then it seems using an 
external [dyn]dns service would work fine.


> 
> It is, by any definition, 'commercial' since its primary 
> purpose is to 
> advertise my company's products and services.
> 
> The quote was lifted from the Sprint 'commercial' agreement. 
> I have not 
> looked at their residential agreement.
> 
> -Mike
>