[lug] (Virtual) BLUG is ON! Thursday April 9th, 2020 @ 6:30PM (MDT!)

Wed Apr 15 12:32:42 MDT 2020

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:41 PM Davide Del Vento <davide.del.vento at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> In my entire 25+ year history of using Linux I've not expected anything
>> new to me to 'just work' on my first try. I've hoped for it and been
>> surprised by it, and sometimes it happens. But, I'm always setting aside
>> significant time to learn how to get something working and update, tweak,
>> or debug Linux to accommodate it.
>>
>
> Just to make it clear, the problem is not spending a lot of time. The
> irritating thing is that AFTER you spend lots of time and make it to work,
> they break it and you have to start again.
>
>
>> While Linux in areas like high performance computing, services and
>> embedded devices has definitely succeed over alternatives, the Linux
>> desktop marketshare appears to be stalled or shrinking. Other than personal
>> politics, I just don't really see any reason to use it. Even in my case,
>> most of what i do is now terminal based or browser based and I can't
>> identify any GUI apps on Linux that are best of breed over Windows or Mac.
>>
>
> About about:
>
> - multi desktop switch? The ones on Windows are practically non-existent
> and the ones on Mac are arguable extremely poor.
> - terminal? I haven't tried one on Windows so I do not know for sure but
> it used to be very poor. On a Mac I have not found EVEN ONE terminal which
> supports everything that even in the oldest xterm worked out of the box.
> For example, keyboard shortcuts for moving one word at the time, go to the
> start or end of the word or doing copy-paste correctly. The best one I've
> found on Mac is terminus and even that has troubles with navigation when
> using VI or VIM (can't find the bug reports at the moment, but can dig them
> out if you really care)
>
> Best,
> Davide
>
>
>
>
>> For that reason, I'm very happy to have programs like Zoom that work well
>> on *my* Linux system. I recognize they're supporting a minority of users
>> and that has a cost to them. It lets me be the black swan and use an OS I'm
>> comfortable with along side other peers who are on Windows, Mac or phones
>> and don't care about all this politics. We can all join a zoom and get on
>> with life and that's important to me.
>>
>> I have empathy for your frustration with Zoom because if our LUG meetings
>> were in some open source program that required a lot of effort to get them
>> to work, I would probably pass on the effort to debug it too. Or I'd
>> procrastinate or wait for it to be fixed. But invest a lot of time.. just
>> like you I think I'd say nope: move on to something else.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Fri, 2020-04-10 at 08:03 -0600, Davide Del Vento wrote:
>>
>> From Friday the 3rd to the day before yesterday, I attempted to use Zoom
>> many times, mostly for job-related meetings, but also for a few other ones
>> (e.g. music lessons). I missed two work meetings and spent an inordinate
>> amount of time trying to fix the issues (I think those are now resolved,
>> and might have been their clumsy attempt to mitigate zoombombing and the
>> security issues that were made public just before the problem occurred).
>> Yet, I am still really angry at that company. I initially resolved to not
>> use Zoom anymore at all, but then I "relaxed the policy" to give it a try
>> for anything I really care about. However, my "policy" is to never ever
>> spend more than 90 seconds on each device. If it doesn't work out of the
>> box, try another device. It did not work out of the box on bionic, I do not
>> know why and I do not care. It did work on Android. If I run out of
>> devices, I am just resigned to miss the meeting. Life is too short to deal
>> with such a stupid company.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Maxwell Spangler <
>> lists at maxwellspangler.com> wrote:
>>
>> What doesn't work on Linux?
>>
>> Zoom? I was using Zoom on Fedora 31 tonight.
>>
>> Curious.
>>
>> On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 19:06 -0600, Davide Del Vento wrote:
>>
>> FWIW it does not work on a Linux workstation, but it does work on Android
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Dan Mackin <dan.mackin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Our feature presenter's slides are here:
>> https://www.varrazzo.com/psycopg-boulder-2020/#slide1
>>
>> Dan Mackin is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>
>> Topic: April 2020 Boulder Linux User's Group
>> Time: Apr 9, 2020 06:30 PM Mountain Time (US and Canada)
>>
>> Join Zoom Meeting
>> https://rule4.zoom.us/j/270870919?pwd=UFZpSENwM3ZtbW1CdDZ3WFhiMGhtQT09
>>
>> Meeting ID: 270 870 919
>> Password: uselinux
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>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jeffrey S. Haemer <
>> jeffrey.haemer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Go Dan!
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:37 AM Dan Mackin <dan.mackin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey y'all!! Thanks for your patience as I worked up a plan! We've got a
>> fantastic speaker lined up for our online MeetUp tonight! ...although maybe
>> I should say "tomorrow afternoon" as our speaker will be casting all the
>> way from New Zealand!!
>>
>> I know we've got folks on this mailing list in all sorts of different
>> time zones, so for further clarity, official BLUG start day and time is:
>> 2020-04-10T00:30Z
>>
>> DETAILS
>> - I will send out a Zoom link to this mailing list (and to the folks that
>> have RSVP'd "Yes" on our MeetUp page) at 2020-04-10T00:00Z. The meeting
>> link won't be active until 2020-04:10T00:30Z. I'll have the waiting room
>> feature enabled so you'll need to be admitted into the Zoom. Please be
>> patient as I let y'all in and make sure you use whatever name you'd put on
>> your name tag if we were meeting in person as it'll help me facilitate
>> questions, discussion, etc.
>> - We'll mingle, chat and fiddle with A/V while waiting for folks to join
>> the meeting and I'll get started right at 2020-04-10T01:00Z.
>> - You'll all enter the room on mute by default. You should be able to
>> unmute yourself at your leisure but remember: Mute's your friend when it
>> comes to good group video chat etiquette.
>> - I'll get us started, we'll do group intros, and then I'll introduce our
>> speaker for our feature presentation: A live presentation on how Python and
>> PostgreSQL interact using psycopg2, the most used Postgres database driver
>> for Python! We will touch basic topics like, basic Python objects,
>> interaction with a database session, data adaptation, and security by
>> avoiding things like SQL injection attacks.
>> - Our presenter, Daniele Varrazzo, has offered to provide the slides
>> ahead of the meeting, just in case we have technical difficulties! I'll
>> send a link to those when I send out the Zoom link.
>>
>> Yes, we will have a give away "raffle" at the end. No, I'm not able to
>> GrubHub everyone food and beer. Logistical nightmare! I know not everyone
>> likes Zoom. Sorry. In the event Zoom becomes unusable across the board,
>> I'll send out a backup Hangouts link to this list (and to the folks that
>> have RSVP'd "Yes" on our MeetUp page). Oh, and if anyone's lost on the
>> timezone thing... we're starting at our normal day/time. Our MeetUp site
>> should list this accurately as well:
>> https://www.meetup.com/Boulder-Linux-Users-Group-BLUG/)
>>
>> See y'all soon!!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:23 PM Dan Mackin <dan.mackin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> LUGers!
>> Yuppers... we'll have a vBLUG MeetUp Thursday evening. I'll have more
>> details for y'all on the event soon but wanted to let you know so as you
>> could keep your calendars clear...
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing y'all via videoconference!!
>> -Dan
>>
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