[lug] (Virtual) BLUG is ON! Thursday April 9th, 2020 @ 6:30PM (MDT!)

Wed Apr 15 19:07:00 MDT 2020

Been there, done that. Unsatisfactory:
https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/issues/8183

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:33 PM Glenn Murray <glenn.murray at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For a Mac terminal, you can install iTerm2 via Homebrew.
> See https://www.iterm2.com.  It’s Free software, GPL V2.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 3:41 PM Davide Del Vento <
> davide.del.vento at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> In my entire 25+ year history of using Linux I've not expected anything
>>> new to me to 'just work' on my first try. I've hoped for it and been
>>> surprised by it, and sometimes it happens. But, I'm always setting aside
>>> significant time to learn how to get something working and update, tweak,
>>> or debug Linux to accommodate it.
>>>
>>
>> Just to make it clear, the problem is not spending a lot of time. The
>> irritating thing is that AFTER you spend lots of time and make it to work,
>> they break it and you have to start again.
>>
>>
>>> While Linux in areas like high performance computing, services and
>>> embedded devices has definitely succeed over alternatives, the Linux
>>> desktop marketshare appears to be stalled or shrinking. Other than personal
>>> politics, I just don't really see any reason to use it. Even in my case,
>>> most of what i do is now terminal based or browser based and I can't
>>> identify any GUI apps on Linux that are best of breed over Windows or Mac.
>>>
>>
>> About about:
>>
>> - multi desktop switch? The ones on Windows are practically non-existent
>> and the ones on Mac are arguable extremely poor.
>> - terminal? I haven't tried one on Windows so I do not know for sure but
>> it used to be very poor. On a Mac I have not found EVEN ONE terminal which
>> supports everything that even in the oldest xterm worked out of the box.
>> For example, keyboard shortcuts for moving one word at the time, go to the
>> start or end of the word or doing copy-paste correctly. The best one I've
>> found on Mac is terminus and even that has troubles with navigation when
>> using VI or VIM (can't find the bug reports at the moment, but can dig them
>> out if you really care)
>>
>> Best,
>> Davide
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> For that reason, I'm very happy to have programs like Zoom that work
>>> well on *my* Linux system. I recognize they're supporting a minority of
>>> users and that has a cost to them. It lets me be the black swan and use an
>>> OS I'm comfortable with along side other peers who are on Windows, Mac or
>>> phones and don't care about all this politics. We can all join a zoom and
>>> get on with life and that's important to me.
>>>
>>> I have empathy for your frustration with Zoom because if our LUG
>>> meetings were in some open source program that required a lot of effort to
>>> get them to work, I would probably pass on the effort to debug it too. Or
>>> I'd procrastinate or wait for it to be fixed. But invest a lot of time..
>>> just like you I think I'd say nope: move on to something else.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2020-04-10 at 08:03 -0600, Davide Del Vento wrote:
>>>
>>> From Friday the 3rd to the day before yesterday, I attempted to use Zoom
>>> many times, mostly for job-related meetings, but also for a few other ones
>>> (e.g. music lessons). I missed two work meetings and spent an inordinate
>>> amount of time trying to fix the issues (I think those are now resolved,
>>> and might have been their clumsy attempt to mitigate zoombombing and the
>>> security issues that were made public just before the problem occurred).
>>> Yet, I am still really angry at that company. I initially resolved to not
>>> use Zoom anymore at all, but then I "relaxed the policy" to give it a try
>>> for anything I really care about. However, my "policy" is to never ever
>>> spend more than 90 seconds on each device. If it doesn't work out of the
>>> box, try another device. It did not work out of the box on bionic, I do not
>>> know why and I do not care. It did work on Android. If I run out of
>>> devices, I am just resigned to miss the meeting. Life is too short to deal
>>> with such a stupid company.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:15 PM Maxwell Spangler <
>>> lists at maxwellspangler.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What doesn't work on Linux?
>>>
>>> Zoom? I was using Zoom on Fedora 31 tonight.
>>>
>>> Curious.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 19:06 -0600, Davide Del Vento wrote:
>>>
>>> FWIW it does not work on a Linux workstation, but it does work on Android
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:04 PM Dan Mackin <dan.mackin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Our feature presenter's slides are here:
>>> https://www.varrazzo.com/psycopg-boulder-2020/#slide1
>>>
>>> Dan Mackin is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>>
>>> Topic: April 2020 Boulder Linux User's Group
>>> Time: Apr 9, 2020 06:30 PM Mountain Time (US and Canada)
>>>
>>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>> https://rule4.zoom.us/j/270870919?pwd=UFZpSENwM3ZtbW1CdDZ3WFhiMGhtQT09
>>>
>>> Meeting ID: 270 870 919
>>> Password: uselinux
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:47 PM Jeffrey S. Haemer <
>>> jeffrey.haemer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Go Dan!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:37 AM Dan Mackin <dan.mackin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey y'all!! Thanks for your patience as I worked up a plan! We've got a
>>> fantastic speaker lined up for our online MeetUp tonight! ...although maybe
>>> I should say "tomorrow afternoon" as our speaker will be casting all the
>>> way from New Zealand!!
>>>
>>> I know we've got folks on this mailing list in all sorts of different
>>> time zones, so for further clarity, official BLUG start day and time is:
>>> 2020-04-10T00:30Z
>>>
>>> DETAILS
>>> - I will send out a Zoom link to this mailing list (and to the folks
>>> that have RSVP'd "Yes" on our MeetUp page) at 2020-04-10T00:00Z. The
>>> meeting link won't be active until 2020-04:10T00:30Z. I'll have the waiting
>>> room feature enabled so you'll need to be admitted into the Zoom. Please be
>>> patient as I let y'all in and make sure you use whatever name you'd put on
>>> your name tag if we were meeting in person as it'll help me facilitate
>>> questions, discussion, etc.
>>> - We'll mingle, chat and fiddle with A/V while waiting for folks to join
>>> the meeting and I'll get started right at 2020-04-10T01:00Z.
>>> - You'll all enter the room on mute by default. You should be able to
>>> unmute yourself at your leisure but remember: Mute's your friend when it
>>> comes to good group video chat etiquette.
>>> - I'll get us started, we'll do group intros, and then I'll introduce
>>> our speaker for our feature presentation: A live presentation on how Python
>>> and PostgreSQL interact using psycopg2, the most used Postgres database
>>> driver for Python! We will touch basic topics like, basic Python objects,
>>> interaction with a database session, data adaptation, and security by
>>> avoiding things like SQL injection attacks.
>>> - Our presenter, Daniele Varrazzo, has offered to provide the slides
>>> ahead of the meeting, just in case we have technical difficulties! I'll
>>> send a link to those when I send out the Zoom link.
>>>
>>> Yes, we will have a give away "raffle" at the end. No, I'm not able to
>>> GrubHub everyone food and beer. Logistical nightmare! I know not everyone
>>> likes Zoom. Sorry. In the event Zoom becomes unusable across the board,
>>> I'll send out a backup Hangouts link to this list (and to the folks that
>>> have RSVP'd "Yes" on our MeetUp page). Oh, and if anyone's lost on the
>>> timezone thing... we're starting at our normal day/time. Our MeetUp site
>>> should list this accurately as well:
>>> https://www.meetup.com/Boulder-Linux-Users-Group-BLUG/)
>>>
>>> See y'all soon!!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:23 PM Dan Mackin <dan.mackin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> LUGers!
>>> Yuppers... we'll have a vBLUG MeetUp Thursday evening. I'll have more
>>> details for y'all on the event soon but wanted to let you know so as you
>>> could keep your calendars clear...
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing y'all via videoconference!!
>>> -Dan
>>>
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