[lug] DSL in Denver?

Chris M chrism at peakpeak.com
Fri Feb 4 10:19:12 MST 2000


I've never understood the excitement about 144K IDSL.  Why not just get ISDN
and have the extra phone POTS services available on demand?

Chris

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>From: "Brian Ketelsen" <briank at becos.org>
>To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
>Subject: Re: [lug] DSL in Denver?
>Date: Fri, Feb 4, 2000, 9:31 AM
>

> Some vendors are providing IDSL, which is nothing more than DSL (ATM)
> protocols over an ISDN line by bonding all 3 ISDN channels together to
> provide 144kbps service. This can travel over any line that qualifies for
> ISDN which is not limited to copper-only loops.  The drawback is that you
> need both a DSL "modem" and an ISDN adapter to make the solution work.  See
> Qwest's website for more information.  I think Flashcom is doing this too.
>
> Brian
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Philip Rasch <pjr at ucar.edu>
> To: <lug at lug.boulder.co.us>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [lug] DSL in Denver?
>
>
>> I am confused by Chris' reply (below). Even if another vendor provides the
>> support for DSL, doesnt it all come down to the regional phone company
>> support for the actual phone lines between the phone company switch  and
> the building?
>>
>> To be specific, it is my guess that if US West doesnt put copper wire
>> all the way from the switch, into your building, there is no way
>> anybody else can help you with DSL. Unless you get them to install
>> their own copper wire.
>>
>> If your do have such a connection, then many vendors can supply
>> the DSL using the various protocols previously discussed.
>>
>> Am I wrong about this? If so, please straighten us all out.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> >
>> > >At 09:11 PM 2/1/00 -0700, you wrote:
>> > >  >
>> > >  >Check with Rhythms.
>> > >  >
>> > >  >www.rhythms.net
>> > >  >
>> > >
>> > > All this talk of DSL has gotten me curious.
>> > > To my understanding, DSL service (the actual data line) has to be
>> > >installed and serviced by USWest.  Once you have the line, you can go
> with
>> > >whichever ISP that offers DSL connections in you're area.
>> > > The conversation here, leads me to believe otherwise.
>> > > Which is correct?
>> > >
>> >
>> > There are many purveyors of DSL circuits besides US West.  US West
>> > offers the lowest-cost circuits and has the largest DSL population of
>> > any Regional Bell Operating Company.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> > Peak to Peak Internet
>> >
>> >
>> > --__--__--
>>
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Phil Rasch, Climate Modeling Section, National Center for Atmospheric
> Research
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